1 00:00:17,530 --> 00:00:13,740 [Music] 2 00:00:20,050 --> 00:00:17,540 this hope radio for the masses headliner 3 00:00:21,700 --> 00:00:20,060 between July 8 1947 4 00:00:23,140 --> 00:00:21,710 you're on the air for through has 5 00:00:25,420 --> 00:00:23,150 announced that a flying dirt 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:25,430 - found under now in the possession of 7 00:00:33,580 --> 00:00:30,730 beyond a big change the game changer I 8 00:00:37,870 --> 00:00:33,590 occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:37,880 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:40,550 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:00:43,790 --> 00:00:41,930 this way 12 00:00:47,209 --> 00:00:43,800 [Music] 13 00:00:52,490 --> 00:00:49,639 they do black with your host Ginny 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:52,500 church on the game-changer Radio Network 15 00:00:59,110 --> 00:00:56,970 and kg are a the global radio alliance 16 00:01:04,150 --> 00:00:59,120 [Music] 17 00:01:07,860 --> 00:01:04,160 need your help to get to the year 1985 18 00:01:10,020 --> 00:01:07,870 [Music] 19 00:01:12,210 --> 00:01:10,030 you're listening to fade to black with 20 00:01:12,980 --> 00:01:12,220 Jimmy judge or the game change in that 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:12,990 one 22 00:01:40,750 --> 00:01:31,860 good evening fade to black 23 00:01:42,580 --> 00:01:40,760 this spoke radio for the masses how you 24 00:01:47,060 --> 00:01:42,590 doing how you doing 25 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:47,070 today's Tuesday September 17th 2019 26 00:01:48,460 --> 00:01:47,150 [Music] 27 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:48,470 [Applause] 28 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:51,990 [Music] 29 00:02:01,650 --> 00:01:57,130 161 days into the new year just 104 days 30 00:02:03,510 --> 00:02:01,660 left we are live from a bunker somewhere 31 00:02:05,820 --> 00:02:03,520 in the middle of beautiful downtown 32 00:02:08,010 --> 00:02:05,830 Burbank California and I would like to 33 00:02:09,930 --> 00:02:08,020 welcome everybody listening all around 34 00:02:14,430 --> 00:02:09,940 the world Oh 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:14,440 across the United States hither and 36 00:02:20,220 --> 00:02:18,130 thither to and fro back and forth up and 37 00:02:24,540 --> 00:02:20,230 down east and west north and south far 38 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:24,550 and near this is fade to black for kjc 39 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:28,390 are the game changer network and Keiji 40 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:32,560 are a the planets time arrows Timmy 41 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:33,100 church 42 00:02:41,310 --> 00:02:35,320 what is cracking everybody how you doing 43 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:41,320 good evening tonight's very special 44 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:44,650 guests first time guests Adam Apollo is 45 00:02:54,060 --> 00:02:49,420 here it's gonna be a great show tonight 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:54,070 I met Adam at contact in the desert for 47 00:03:00,930 --> 00:02:57,730 the first time and watching his 48 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:00,940 presentation and the way that he 49 00:03:08,820 --> 00:03:04,450 presents himself you're gonna be blown 50 00:03:10,590 --> 00:03:08,830 away tonight Adam Apollo as a child he 51 00:03:13,140 --> 00:03:10,600 had several encounters with 52 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:13,150 extraterrestrial starships since 53 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:15,940 awakening at 15 years Adam dedicated 54 00:03:20,430 --> 00:03:17,890 himself to extensive studies in 55 00:03:23,340 --> 00:03:20,440 theoretical physics symbolic geometry 56 00:03:25,650 --> 00:03:23,350 past life recall Sam's Carrick healing 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:25,660 Te'o alchemy martial arts energy 58 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:28,570 therapies occult magic and many ancient 59 00:03:33,780 --> 00:03:30,910 and modern spiritual traditions and 60 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:33,790 practices he has had countless contact 61 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:36,850 experiences he organized C city and E 62 00:03:41,940 --> 00:03:39,670 City events and called and connected 63 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:41,950 with hundreds of starship crews and 64 00:03:46,110 --> 00:03:43,600 developed a comprehensive knowledge of 65 00:03:48,780 --> 00:03:46,120 many species who have interacted with 66 00:03:50,699 --> 00:03:48,790 humanity over many millennia he's the 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:50,709 founder of the unified movement and the 68 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:52,930 lead systems architect for several 69 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:55,300 international online academies he has 70 00:04:00,300 --> 00:03:57,730 also provided development consultation 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:00,310 and white paper editing for multiple 72 00:04:04,890 --> 00:04:03,450 organizations focusing on sovereignty 73 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:04,900 decentralization 74 00:04:08,729 --> 00:04:07,180 currencies and is also working on an 75 00:04:11,610 --> 00:04:08,739 infrastructure to support the 76 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:11,620 independent sovereign web a distributed 77 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:14,650 cryptographic social system and future 78 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:16,600 starship dashboard called 79 00:04:20,670 --> 00:04:18,940 the core Network I would like to welcome 80 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:20,680 for the first time to fade to black 81 00:04:23,879 --> 00:04:23,440 Adam Apollo Adam good evening how are 82 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:23,889 you man 83 00:04:28,980 --> 00:04:26,320 mmm doing great Jimmy great to be here 84 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:28,990 with you yeah it's great to hear your 85 00:04:33,719 --> 00:04:32,080 voice and before we get started let's 86 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:33,729 get one thing out of the way which is 87 00:04:39,390 --> 00:04:37,510 the first time guest disclaimer alright 88 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:39,400 now the next time you're on the show 89 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:41,650 you're not gonna get it but you get it 90 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:43,810 doubt which is this it's just you and I 91 00:04:47,340 --> 00:04:45,370 Adams sitting on my couch having a 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:47,350 conversation as friends and where that 93 00:04:50,610 --> 00:04:49,210 conversation starts it starts where it 94 00:04:52,980 --> 00:04:50,620 ends it ends but we're gonna end his 95 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:52,990 friends there you go you're ready to go 96 00:04:57,090 --> 00:04:55,030 sounds good to me Jimmy let's do it 97 00:04:59,360 --> 00:04:57,100 let's let's start with the basics 98 00:05:02,520 --> 00:04:59,370 where'd you grow up 99 00:05:05,070 --> 00:05:02,530 well my parents divorced when I was 2 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:05,080 years old so even though I was born in 101 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:07,210 Oakland California they traveled a lot 102 00:05:12,830 --> 00:05:10,330 until I was around 2 and then my dad 103 00:05:16,260 --> 00:05:12,840 ended up in Austin Texas he's a musician 104 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:16,270 my mom ended up in a little tiny town 105 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:18,130 called Red River New Mexico way up at 106 00:05:23,879 --> 00:05:20,590 9,000 feet in the Sangre de Cristo 107 00:05:27,050 --> 00:05:23,889 Mountains of northern New Mexico and so 108 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:27,060 I was between them a lot as a kid 109 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:29,740 basically traveled back and forth you 110 00:05:33,990 --> 00:05:31,450 know every few months until I started 111 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:34,000 school and then I was with my mom in 112 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:36,520 school primarily cuz this tiny little 113 00:05:42,930 --> 00:05:39,630 school with like 30 kids K through five 114 00:05:44,969 --> 00:05:42,940 was just way better for my education 115 00:05:47,010 --> 00:05:44,979 than the Austin City Schools as you can 116 00:05:50,129 --> 00:05:47,020 imagine I tried Austin City Schools 117 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:50,139 around 2nd grade it was a total [\h__\h] 118 00:05:55,050 --> 00:05:52,810 show except for art class which was 119 00:05:58,110 --> 00:05:55,060 amazing I started learning how to draw 120 00:06:00,540 --> 00:05:58,120 in 3d which was the best part right but 121 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:00,550 my dad also lived in Philadelphia for a 122 00:06:06,180 --> 00:06:02,970 time and st. Louis for a time after that 123 00:06:09,060 --> 00:06:06,190 and eventually moved to the North Shore 124 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:09,070 of Oahu in Hawaii my mom around the same 125 00:06:14,370 --> 00:06:11,470 time ended up moving to North Carolina 126 00:06:16,409 --> 00:06:14,380 and so I've spent a lot of time in the 127 00:06:19,570 --> 00:06:16,419 mountains of Western North Carolina and 128 00:06:21,969 --> 00:06:19,580 also in Hawaii during my 129 00:06:23,679 --> 00:06:21,979 middle school and teenage years that's 130 00:06:26,379 --> 00:06:23,689 pretty cool I mean you get a little 131 00:06:28,059 --> 00:06:26,389 taste of everything mm-hmm you know I 132 00:06:30,249 --> 00:06:28,069 want to ask you this though 133 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:30,259 New Mexico for all of us right high 134 00:06:35,649 --> 00:06:33,620 strangeness capital of the world did 135 00:06:39,070 --> 00:06:35,659 anything anything crazy go down at that 136 00:06:43,059 --> 00:06:39,080 age yeah absolutely when I was really 137 00:06:46,899 --> 00:06:43,069 little I was I think about six I 138 00:06:49,179 --> 00:06:46,909 remember being in first grade and kind 139 00:06:51,429 --> 00:06:49,189 of trying to process my experience after 140 00:06:53,529 --> 00:06:51,439 it happened at school the next day and 141 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:53,539 trying to figure out if it was a dream 142 00:07:01,029 --> 00:06:56,810 or not but my mom at the time was living 143 00:07:03,580 --> 00:07:01,039 at this ranch and she led horse tours 144 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:03,590 and I had a little donkey named Chiquita 145 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:06,289 and we do these horse rides way up into 146 00:07:12,459 --> 00:07:09,110 the mountains and one evening I went 147 00:07:15,399 --> 00:07:12,469 outside and sometimes the night sky up 148 00:07:18,850 --> 00:07:15,409 there at 9,000 feet in New Mexico's just 149 00:07:20,439 --> 00:07:18,860 so crisp and clear and dry I used to 150 00:07:23,709 --> 00:07:20,449 joke that you'd have to look for the 151 00:07:26,579 --> 00:07:23,719 dark places between the stars and I was 152 00:07:29,860 --> 00:07:26,589 walking around this little lake that was 153 00:07:31,570 --> 00:07:29,870 just in the ranch and kind of cruising 154 00:07:34,110 --> 00:07:31,580 around looking at the stars and just 155 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:34,120 having a moment to myself outside and 156 00:07:39,909 --> 00:07:37,520 all the sudden this light comes down the 157 00:07:41,890 --> 00:07:39,919 valley and it gets brighter and brighter 158 00:07:44,890 --> 00:07:41,900 and brighter and then it comes right 159 00:07:47,829 --> 00:07:44,900 over me and over the lake and I remember 160 00:07:51,010 --> 00:07:47,839 it getting so bright that it was like 161 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:51,020 blindingly white and I was what is that 162 00:07:57,570 --> 00:07:54,889 and then all of a sudden it just blinks 163 00:08:02,079 --> 00:07:57,580 shoots off and flies over the mountain 164 00:08:04,390 --> 00:08:02,089 and I was like it was quiet there was no 165 00:08:06,999 --> 00:08:04,400 sound there was no nothing just this 166 00:08:09,820 --> 00:08:07,009 light I went back to the house I was mom 167 00:08:12,219 --> 00:08:09,830 I saw this light it was huge in the sky 168 00:08:13,540 --> 00:08:12,229 she's like whoa really it's like yeah it 169 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:13,550 was like amazing I don't know what it 170 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:15,289 was she's like that sounds really 171 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:18,860 interesting like strange you know and I 172 00:08:23,409 --> 00:08:20,930 remember being at school and telling 173 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:23,419 people about in there like aha sure okay 174 00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:26,000 cool some big thing in the sky that's 175 00:08:30,670 --> 00:08:26,449 weird 176 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:30,680 and nobody really treated it as 177 00:08:34,450 --> 00:08:32,690 seriously as I felt it 178 00:08:38,290 --> 00:08:34,460 so I started wondering like was this a 179 00:08:39,580 --> 00:08:38,300 dream and I actually went to my mom you 180 00:08:41,409 --> 00:08:39,590 know a couple weeks later and I was like 181 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:41,419 mom do you remember me going outside and 182 00:08:44,980 --> 00:08:43,250 did I come back in and tell you I saw 183 00:08:47,950 --> 00:08:44,990 something bright in the sky she's like 184 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:47,960 yeah you saw something and that was it 185 00:08:55,090 --> 00:08:51,350 and that was the only time I really saw 186 00:08:57,490 --> 00:08:55,100 something unquestionably powerful in the 187 00:08:59,920 --> 00:08:57,500 sky when I was living in New Mexico even 188 00:09:02,710 --> 00:08:59,930 though I saw shooting stars all the time 189 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:02,720 when just all the time just everywhere 190 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:04,310 and this guy anytime I look at the sky 191 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:07,250 boom there's one you know and I didn't 192 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:09,650 think anything interesting about that 193 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:12,710 until he started realizing that 194 00:09:17,050 --> 00:09:14,690 sometimes shooting stars don't go 195 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:17,060 straight sometimes they turn 90 degrees 196 00:09:21,070 --> 00:09:19,490 half the way but I had to learn how to 197 00:09:26,260 --> 00:09:21,080 pay attention to that as I grew older 198 00:09:30,190 --> 00:09:26,270 now when your awakening was at the age 199 00:09:35,230 --> 00:09:30,200 of 15 years a very critical age for for 200 00:09:39,730 --> 00:09:35,240 any teenager but between your first 201 00:09:43,210 --> 00:09:39,740 sighting in New Mexico and the age of 15 202 00:09:45,250 --> 00:09:43,220 was there was there contact was there 203 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:45,260 was there things that were going on 204 00:09:51,730 --> 00:09:47,630 through that period of you know 7 8 205 00:09:57,450 --> 00:09:51,740 years the only other major experience I 206 00:10:01,000 --> 00:09:57,460 had that came with an object in the sky 207 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:01,010 that I couldn't explain happened with my 208 00:10:03,610 --> 00:10:01,610 dad 209 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:03,620 and a couple of my stepbrothers when he 210 00:10:07,830 --> 00:10:06,230 was living just outside st. Louis in a 211 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:07,840 little town called Robbinsville and 212 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:10,490 there's sort of a shortcut from the 213 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:11,930 highway you could take this dirt road 214 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:14,240 and take a shortcut over to where we 215 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:16,970 lived in this little valley train tracks 216 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:19,730 and a river and we were taking this dirt 217 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:23,810 road shortcut and at some point you know 218 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:25,610 I'm the backseat my dad's in the front 219 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:28,040 seat my stepbrothers in the passenger 220 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:31,970 seat and he looks up out through the 221 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:35,240 dashboard window and he says stop the 222 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:37,310 car stop the car stop the car and my dad 223 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:39,050 like hits the brake stops the car we 224 00:10:43,270 --> 00:10:40,970 jump out of the car he's like get out 225 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:43,280 get out and we get out we're like what's 226 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:44,720 going on you know I'm my heartbeats 227 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:46,010 racing I'm like 228 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:48,170 what's happening and he's like look look 229 00:10:52,870 --> 00:10:50,660 look we look at the sky and there's 230 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:52,880 these three lights and they're in a 231 00:11:00,280 --> 00:10:55,730 triangle shape and they're just weaving 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:00,290 back and forth across the sky and we're 233 00:11:06,490 --> 00:11:03,530 all just whoa and then all of a sudden 234 00:11:08,740 --> 00:11:06,500 they like speed up it spins a little 235 00:11:10,750 --> 00:11:08,750 faster goes down over by the horizon and 236 00:11:15,100 --> 00:11:10,760 then shoots across the sky like a 237 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:15,110 shooting star gone and gone and we are 238 00:11:19,870 --> 00:11:16,820 all just looking at each other like did 239 00:11:22,150 --> 00:11:19,880 that just happen like did we just see 240 00:11:25,030 --> 00:11:22,160 that an epiphany 241 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:25,040 that's an epiphany right yeah and that's 242 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:26,570 one of those moments where you know and 243 00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:30,530 I'm you know it's like 9 or 10 at the 244 00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:35,750 time where you're just like how like 245 00:11:40,390 --> 00:11:38,030 what is that like come on 246 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:40,400 like there's no aircraft that does that 247 00:11:49,420 --> 00:11:44,840 and by this age I I was already just 248 00:11:52,990 --> 00:11:49,430 extremely logical and investigative in 249 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:53,000 all of my thinking I was real smart in 250 00:11:56,590 --> 00:11:53,360 school 251 00:11:59,650 --> 00:11:56,600 I generally aced everything I had above 252 00:12:02,020 --> 00:11:59,660 4.0 grade average I you know won 253 00:12:04,990 --> 00:12:02,030 trophies for being the top grade point 254 00:12:08,020 --> 00:12:05,000 average from K through fifth grade and I 255 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:08,030 had problems with a lot of the answers 256 00:12:13,060 --> 00:12:10,610 that I got in school and at that point 257 00:12:15,550 --> 00:12:13,070 in time you know I started really 258 00:12:18,670 --> 00:12:15,560 wondering and questioning certain things 259 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:18,680 about the way that we describe our 260 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:22,250 history the way we describe our reality 261 00:12:28,390 --> 00:12:25,580 I had significant issues with questions 262 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:28,400 like you know what is heat and and then 263 00:12:32,740 --> 00:12:30,410 the teacher like actually can't answer 264 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:32,750 the question for me like what heat is oh 265 00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:35,360 it's vibrating molecules I was like well 266 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:37,430 what are the vibrating molecules oh well 267 00:12:41,890 --> 00:12:39,710 they're protons and electrons and 268 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:41,900 neutrons and okay what is that made of 269 00:12:51,550 --> 00:12:48,050 and then they're like right no I would 270 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:51,560 run into dead ends with teachers all the 271 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:54,050 time and and I was like you know there's 272 00:12:59,280 --> 00:12:56,570 some there's some real problems with our 273 00:13:01,740 --> 00:12:59,290 our thinking and the 274 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:01,750 a lot of gaps that I'm finding 275 00:13:07,490 --> 00:13:03,810 throughout school and that only grew 276 00:13:11,550 --> 00:13:07,500 especially as I got into middle school I 277 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:11,560 started feeling more and more that I had 278 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:13,630 this kind of sinking feeling like my 279 00:13:18,269 --> 00:13:15,490 teachers were lying to me about stuff 280 00:13:20,129 --> 00:13:18,279 and and I'd hear some story about 281 00:13:22,259 --> 00:13:20,139 something that happened in history or 282 00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:22,269 you know hear the way that something was 283 00:13:28,379 --> 00:13:24,430 described in science and I would just be 284 00:13:31,379 --> 00:13:28,389 like that does not ring true for me like 285 00:13:34,259 --> 00:13:31,389 there's a problem here and it was the 286 00:13:39,420 --> 00:13:34,269 feeling of that problem and the real 287 00:13:43,379 --> 00:13:39,430 sense of like depression and anxiety and 288 00:13:45,749 --> 00:13:43,389 feeling like I'm being lied to and that 289 00:13:47,730 --> 00:13:45,759 there's something odd and wrong about 290 00:13:51,090 --> 00:13:47,740 this whole story of reality that I'm in 291 00:13:53,699 --> 00:13:51,100 that eventually led to this experience 292 00:13:57,499 --> 00:13:53,709 which you call my awakening teachers 293 00:14:00,300 --> 00:13:57,509 don't teachers don't and scientist right 294 00:14:02,730 --> 00:14:00,310 they they don't like it when they can't 295 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:02,740 answer a question or when they know that 296 00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:04,930 they have yeah yeah or over they have to 297 00:14:10,290 --> 00:14:08,079 stick to dogma that they don't believe 298 00:14:14,009 --> 00:14:10,300 and suddenly you guys are in an 299 00:14:15,660 --> 00:14:14,019 adversarial position last night and I 300 00:14:17,790 --> 00:14:15,670 know about your interest in theoretical 301 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:17,800 physics and we're gonna talk about some 302 00:14:21,059 --> 00:14:18,790 of that in just a bit 303 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:21,069 last night I was listening to an old 304 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:24,370 interview with Richard Fineman and here 305 00:14:29,069 --> 00:14:25,600 we have one of the great you know 306 00:14:31,439 --> 00:14:29,079 theoretical physicist of our generation 307 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:31,449 and somebody that is so respected but 308 00:14:37,949 --> 00:14:34,720 this interviewer says define 'men he 309 00:14:40,019 --> 00:14:37,959 goes okay you know when you got to back 310 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:40,029 Mnet's and you're trying to push him 311 00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:42,310 together and there's a force there and 312 00:14:49,069 --> 00:14:45,279 there's a force and and it's repelling 313 00:14:52,170 --> 00:14:49,079 what is that Fineman got pissed 314 00:14:54,059 --> 00:14:52,180 he's like why would you want me why 315 00:14:55,379 --> 00:14:54,069 would you ask you know you know why why 316 00:14:57,389 --> 00:14:55,389 do you even want to know the answer to 317 00:14:59,790 --> 00:14:57,399 that question you know why do you and he 318 00:15:02,550 --> 00:14:59,800 danced for 10 minutes 319 00:15:04,139 --> 00:15:02,560 yeah and never went back and answered 320 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:04,149 the question because he doesn't know 321 00:15:09,750 --> 00:15:07,510 because nobody knows the answer to that 322 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:09,760 question although when we get into 323 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:12,130 theoretical physics I'm gonna speak 324 00:15:14,670 --> 00:15:13,000 about something 325 00:15:16,590 --> 00:15:14,680 that will actually explain the answer to 326 00:15:18,750 --> 00:15:16,600 that question much more fully and richly 327 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:18,760 than Fineman did even though I believe 328 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:21,190 you know Fineman is absolutely brilliant 329 00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:24,970 made a lot of great breakthroughs but 330 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:28,510 physics itself has been missing huge 331 00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:31,960 chunks of reality and part of that is 332 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:35,140 you know a result of the way that we 333 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:37,480 have studied reality and the way we've 334 00:15:41,970 --> 00:15:39,730 constrained our capacity for 335 00:15:44,370 --> 00:15:41,980 understanding through developing 336 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:44,380 specific models like the scientific 337 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:48,370 method etc mhm and we try to remove the 338 00:15:53,370 --> 00:15:50,500 subjective observer as much as possible 339 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:53,380 but of course you can't remove the 340 00:15:57,830 --> 00:15:55,480 subjective observer when everybody is a 341 00:15:59,280 --> 00:15:57,840 subjective observer and we're all just 342 00:16:00,210 --> 00:15:59,290 cross-referencing with our own 343 00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:00,220 subjectivity 344 00:16:06,510 --> 00:16:03,880 so there's innate problems to logic in 345 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:06,520 the scientific method itself and then 346 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:08,290 these problems of course become part of 347 00:16:14,130 --> 00:16:11,110 physics as science tries to break away 348 00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:14,140 from religion and you know that there's 349 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:15,790 a whole long story we could get into 350 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:18,070 around that if you want to go yeah we 351 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:21,210 and we can go there and the reason why 352 00:16:26,850 --> 00:16:25,060 for certainly with me and I think a lot 353 00:16:30,060 --> 00:16:26,860 out a lot of people out there that have 354 00:16:32,370 --> 00:16:30,070 the time to invest into research into 355 00:16:34,650 --> 00:16:32,380 the UFO question and what is going on 356 00:16:38,670 --> 00:16:34,660 out there and seeking answers you will 357 00:16:41,070 --> 00:16:38,680 eventually align yourself with physics 358 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:41,080 theoretical physics the quantum 359 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:44,800 mechanical side of things and that part 360 00:16:51,750 --> 00:16:47,320 of science the theoretical physicist out 361 00:16:54,750 --> 00:16:51,760 there and that that are into astronomy 362 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:54,760 and the and the cosmology side of things 363 00:17:00,750 --> 00:16:57,610 down to the quantum level understand 364 00:17:04,110 --> 00:17:00,760 that the numbers and the math and the 365 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:04,120 equations clearly state a lot of 366 00:17:10,350 --> 00:17:06,250 fantastical things that point in the 367 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:10,360 direction of the planets and intelligent 368 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:12,610 life and we're not alone and in the 369 00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:16,810 theories of multiverses and that that 370 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:19,600 that that research will take you and 371 00:17:24,929 --> 00:17:21,760 they are right there with us and we are 372 00:17:25,829 --> 00:17:24,939 getting close because of the research 373 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:25,839 that is going 374 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:28,690 to prove these things that have been 375 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:30,850 unprovable in the past and we are right 376 00:17:36,239 --> 00:17:34,090 there that's theoretical physics and and 377 00:17:39,060 --> 00:17:36,249 getting into that is a very important 378 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:39,070 part of our community here and it's 379 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:41,049 starting to blend don't you think 380 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:43,990 they're starting to overlap well because 381 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:47,049 we're starting to uncover a deeper 382 00:17:51,060 --> 00:17:49,450 underlying truth we've realized we've 383 00:17:53,190 --> 00:17:51,070 had a lot of theories and a lot of 384 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:53,200 beliefs but we're starting to see a 385 00:17:57,299 --> 00:17:55,690 deeper underlying truth and once you 386 00:17:59,399 --> 00:17:57,309 begin to get the underlying framework 387 00:18:02,190 --> 00:17:59,409 everything starts to make sense I mean 388 00:18:04,919 --> 00:18:02,200 when we zoom back into my life story and 389 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:04,929 we look at me as a little kid going into 390 00:18:10,619 --> 00:18:07,690 high school I got fascinated with the 391 00:18:12,389 --> 00:18:10,629 Drake Equation which for most of your 392 00:18:15,109 --> 00:18:12,399 listeners probably are aware of it but 393 00:18:17,820 --> 00:18:15,119 it's basically an equation to estimate 394 00:18:19,289 --> 00:18:17,830 what the likelihood is of there being 395 00:18:21,419 --> 00:18:19,299 other intelligent life out in the 396 00:18:23,009 --> 00:18:21,429 universe now at the time when I did the 397 00:18:26,340 --> 00:18:23,019 Drake Equation there's a couple parts 398 00:18:30,859 --> 00:18:26,350 that you plug in one of them is you know 399 00:18:34,830 --> 00:18:30,869 what is the percentage of stars around 400 00:18:37,889 --> 00:18:34,840 that have planets that have the capacity 401 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:37,899 to support life now at the time that I 402 00:18:43,169 --> 00:18:40,480 was in high school the number of planets 403 00:18:44,850 --> 00:18:43,179 with the capacity to support life the 404 00:18:47,789 --> 00:18:44,860 stars the percentage of stars that would 405 00:18:50,340 --> 00:18:47,799 have those planets was extremely low my 406 00:18:53,249 --> 00:18:50,350 she thought it was like zero number of 407 00:18:56,369 --> 00:18:53,259 stars that have planets is gonna be 408 00:18:59,220 --> 00:18:56,379 maybe 1% and we thought that the number 409 00:19:01,739 --> 00:18:59,230 of stars that have planets that also 410 00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:01,749 have planets in the Goldilocks zone is 411 00:19:07,830 --> 00:19:05,230 you know point zero zero zero something 412 00:19:10,769 --> 00:19:07,840 percent and when you plug in those 413 00:19:15,629 --> 00:19:10,779 numbers to the Drake Equation you still 414 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:15,639 get the potential of thousands of you 415 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:17,440 know literally millions of planets with 416 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:21,129 life and thousands of planets you know 417 00:19:24,869 --> 00:19:23,139 that could have intelligent life when 418 00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:24,879 you're looking at the scale of the 419 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:29,200 entire universe now when we win nowadays 420 00:19:33,749 --> 00:19:31,210 when you look at the Drake Equation and 421 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:33,759 you now apply current numbers we now 422 00:19:39,539 --> 00:19:37,450 know that literally 99% of stars have 423 00:19:40,289 --> 00:19:39,549 planetary systems so when we believe 424 00:19:42,479 --> 00:19:40,299 that over 425 00:19:44,849 --> 00:19:42,489 half of those stars with planetary 426 00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:44,859 systems have planets that have the 427 00:19:50,609 --> 00:19:47,049 capacity to support life which means 428 00:19:52,619 --> 00:19:50,619 that over half the stars in just the two 429 00:19:55,769 --> 00:19:52,629 hundred billion stars in our galaxy 430 00:19:57,810 --> 00:19:55,779 alone could have planets with the 431 00:20:00,869 --> 00:19:57,820 capacity to support life you know that's 432 00:20:02,789 --> 00:20:00,879 a hundred billion planets potentially 433 00:20:06,269 --> 00:20:02,799 with life out there just in our galaxy 434 00:20:08,249 --> 00:20:06,279 and you know you add the piece of the 435 00:20:11,310 --> 00:20:08,259 equation where you know in a pinhead 436 00:20:13,579 --> 00:20:11,320 point on the sky we see thousands and 437 00:20:15,899 --> 00:20:13,589 thousands of galaxies and the universe 438 00:20:19,169 --> 00:20:15,909 starts to look like a pretty busy place 439 00:20:21,419 --> 00:20:19,179 actually well populated with many kinds 440 00:20:23,789 --> 00:20:21,429 of intelligences and that's just looking 441 00:20:27,539 --> 00:20:23,799 at it from the most basic scientific 442 00:20:31,799 --> 00:20:27,549 baseline perspective yeah back when we 443 00:20:35,129 --> 00:20:31,809 did the panel when you were on the panel 444 00:20:37,199 --> 00:20:35,139 with me and Sunday night I said just 445 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:37,209 that to the audience if you remember I 446 00:20:41,069 --> 00:20:39,129 you know I took out the dime and I said 447 00:20:43,379 --> 00:20:41,079 if you hold up a dime in any black spot 448 00:20:45,869 --> 00:20:43,389 you know up in the night sky you're 449 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:45,879 looking at a hundred and fifty thousand 450 00:20:51,539 --> 00:20:49,570 galaxies anywhere at any point a hundred 451 00:20:52,979 --> 00:20:51,549 fifty thousand galaxies any point on 452 00:20:55,709 --> 00:20:52,989 planet Earth and each one of those 453 00:20:58,049 --> 00:20:55,719 galaxies got a half a billion stars and 454 00:21:03,359 --> 00:20:58,059 and there's a half a billion planet and 455 00:21:05,819 --> 00:21:03,369 and mmit concept minimal minimal minimal 456 00:21:09,149 --> 00:21:05,829 and that concept wasn't even considered 457 00:21:12,239 --> 00:21:09,159 ten years ago that's right and they we 458 00:21:15,479 --> 00:21:12,249 are in a different time in place today 459 00:21:18,659 --> 00:21:15,489 going back to scientists and cosmology 460 00:21:22,739 --> 00:21:18,669 and astrophysicist they understand this 461 00:21:24,629 --> 00:21:22,749 now and if I had my choice Adam I'm 462 00:21:27,539 --> 00:21:24,639 serious too if I had my choice I'd want 463 00:21:32,339 --> 00:21:27,549 to be I'd want to be an astronomer today 464 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:32,349 what a great gig right yeah well you 465 00:21:38,999 --> 00:21:34,570 know it's been a great gig forever I 466 00:21:41,489 --> 00:21:39,009 mean the opportunity and the the way of 467 00:21:45,629 --> 00:21:41,499 looking at our place in the universe is 468 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,639 something that can bring such a deep 469 00:21:50,849 --> 00:21:47,919 level of inspiration to all of us and I 470 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:50,859 think to be frank about it most people 471 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:53,280 spend way too little time 472 00:21:58,250 --> 00:21:55,490 actually just looking at the sky and 473 00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:58,260 looking at the stars I know people that 474 00:22:02,690 --> 00:22:00,720 have never seen a shooting star and I'm 475 00:22:05,570 --> 00:22:02,700 like are you kidding me it's impossible 476 00:22:08,260 --> 00:22:05,580 just literally stand here and look at 477 00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:08,270 the sky for longer than a few minutes 478 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:11,430 and you will see one you know like it's 479 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:15,090 it's that simple but it's amazing peace 480 00:22:19,220 --> 00:22:17,130 people just you know the glance at the 481 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:19,230 sky oh yeah the stars you know oh yeah 482 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:21,840 there's clouds oh there's the moon you 483 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:24,450 know and we instantly label we instantly 484 00:22:29,630 --> 00:22:28,080 just write it off but what happens when 485 00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:29,640 you start really paying attention to the 486 00:22:34,970 --> 00:22:32,940 space between stars well now you start 487 00:22:37,010 --> 00:22:34,980 really observing what's going on out 488 00:22:38,660 --> 00:22:37,020 there what happened at 15 489 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:38,670 what was your awakening what was that 490 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:41,490 epiphany you know I had a really good 491 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:43,890 friend and he and I used to talk about 492 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:45,510 some of these big questions that 493 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:48,960 couldn't get answered in school like how 494 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:51,090 is it that you can feel it when 495 00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:52,890 somebody's looking at you from across 496 00:22:58,190 --> 00:22:56,310 the room how is it possible how is it 497 00:23:00,740 --> 00:22:58,200 possible that you could think about 498 00:23:02,690 --> 00:23:00,750 somebody and then they call you on the 499 00:23:05,330 --> 00:23:02,700 phone now keep in mind this was you know 500 00:23:07,550 --> 00:23:05,340 their 90's and all you had was landlines 501 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:07,560 right no we didn't even have cell phones 502 00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:09,630 walking around in our pockets but you 503 00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:11,400 think of somebody and they'd call on the 504 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:13,920 phone sometimes how does that happen 505 00:23:17,210 --> 00:23:16,410 what's the functional physics of these 506 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:17,220 kinds of things 507 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:19,650 why do people's ears burn when 508 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:21,810 somebody's talking about them these were 509 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:23,970 questions that I deeply wanted the 510 00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:25,770 answer to and that there was no 511 00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:28,590 framework for in the physics and that no 512 00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:31,350 teacher could answer and I started 513 00:23:36,350 --> 00:23:33,630 experimenting with my friend and playing 514 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:36,360 with a variety of different logical 515 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:38,250 experiments and physiological 516 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:42,090 experiments and they led us to you know 517 00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:44,700 a couple basic practices and one of them 518 00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:47,640 I was sticking my fingers together just 519 00:23:52,150 --> 00:23:49,350 pushing the fingertips together very 520 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:52,160 lightly and then very slowly I started 521 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:54,510 separating the space between my 522 00:23:59,390 --> 00:23:57,330 fingertips and I was just looking at the 523 00:24:01,340 --> 00:23:59,400 space between my fingertips and I wanted 524 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:01,350 to see if I had some interaction with my 525 00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:05,310 eyes to my fingers to this space that I 526 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:06,270 was created 527 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:11,130 and suddenly I felt something and I saw 528 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:13,890 something you can see it yes and it was 529 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:17,970 a vibrational fluid like smoky field 530 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:20,130 between my fingertips and then any of 531 00:24:23,570 --> 00:24:21,720 your listeners can do this at home you 532 00:24:26,030 --> 00:24:23,580 just put your fingertips together you 533 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:26,040 very slowly bring them apart you watch 534 00:24:32,270 --> 00:24:30,000 that space and I also saw these little 535 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:32,280 light flickers and I could feel on my 536 00:24:37,070 --> 00:24:34,380 fingertips especially if I bounced my 537 00:24:41,090 --> 00:24:37,080 fingers in and out this little tingle 538 00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:41,100 like a subtle vibration and something 539 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:44,520 inside my head just popped I was like oh 540 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,690 my god and for a moment I thought oh my 541 00:24:55,850 --> 00:24:51,360 god this is the force I found the force 542 00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:55,860 like the force is real it was an epic 543 00:25:00,280 --> 00:24:57,540 moment for a 15 year old kid let me tell 544 00:25:03,950 --> 00:25:00,290 you yeah let me ask you how old are you 545 00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:03,960 right now I'm 37 you're 37 I'm gonna be 546 00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:09,150 56 but I was around the same age I was 547 00:25:15,980 --> 00:25:12,720 like 15 when somebody one of my 548 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:15,990 tripped-out older friends showed me that 549 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:19,050 the energy between your fingertips right 550 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:21,690 misses and this is little you know the 551 00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:25,010 late 70s and that that was a 552 00:25:30,740 --> 00:25:28,350 mind-blowing moment for me I mean I 553 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:30,750 would practice it and and I got it down 554 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:32,730 pretty good I got it to change colors 555 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:34,080 too sometimes it would be green 556 00:25:42,620 --> 00:25:38,490 sometimes it would be white sometimes 557 00:25:46,130 --> 00:25:42,630 yellow and blue I got I got a lot of 558 00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:46,140 blue anyway moving on okay I started to 559 00:25:52,490 --> 00:25:49,020 investigate this right nomina as a 560 00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:52,500 scientist and also as a martial artist 561 00:25:58,070 --> 00:25:56,070 and so I started testing could I could 562 00:25:59,810 --> 00:25:58,080 my friend put something somewhere on the 563 00:26:01,640 --> 00:25:59,820 other side of the room and hide it and I 564 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:01,650 not see where he's putting it or know 565 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:03,690 where it is and could I detect the 566 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,730 feeling of that object with my fingers 567 00:26:10,340 --> 00:26:07,200 and locate it 568 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:10,350 so I started dowsing with my body my 569 00:26:15,770 --> 00:26:12,809 friend we also practiced martial arts 570 00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,780 and sparring and push hands together so 571 00:26:20,580 --> 00:26:18,880 we started doing that blindfolded and we 572 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:20,590 started playing with how fast could we 573 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:23,410 go and and could you go faster if I 574 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:26,170 would just feel using that little sense 575 00:26:31,410 --> 00:26:28,510 of the tingle where his hand was gonna 576 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,420 be and it was mind-blowing because we 577 00:26:35,850 --> 00:26:33,760 started literally having these massive 578 00:26:37,950 --> 00:26:35,860 breakthroughs and I started playing with 579 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:37,960 the charge in the field I started 580 00:26:42,450 --> 00:26:39,970 filling my whole hands with it showing 581 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:42,460 other friends in high school and they're 582 00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:44,410 just like oh my god like what what is 583 00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,510 this that you're doing what is that I 584 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:48,880 don't like I don't know it's energy it's 585 00:26:53,970 --> 00:26:52,150 it's part of life force and I started 586 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:53,980 realizing that it could be tuned to 587 00:26:58,530 --> 00:26:55,510 different frequencies just like you 588 00:27:00,270 --> 00:26:58,540 described and and really shaped to 589 00:27:04,110 --> 00:27:00,280 different elements like fire air earth 590 00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:04,120 and water and that a person feeling the 591 00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:06,220 ball in my hands that is you know 592 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:09,220 invisible and seemingly intangible could 593 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:11,230 literally detect if it felt like fire 594 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:13,930 versus if it felt like water and I still 595 00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:16,090 do this practice I teach this to people 596 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:18,340 and I have them create these little 597 00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:19,810 balls in their hands and pass them to 598 00:27:24,990 --> 00:27:21,430 each other I did it at contact in the 599 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:25,000 desert and the look on their faces when 600 00:27:30,390 --> 00:27:27,730 they receive the thing into their hands 601 00:27:32,190 --> 00:27:30,400 and they realize that it actually feels 602 00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:32,200 like an element and they can tell the 603 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:34,120 other person which element it is is 604 00:27:40,290 --> 00:27:37,030 priceless man it's one of the greatest 605 00:27:43,740 --> 00:27:40,300 things seeing people go this is so real 606 00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:43,750 and you know for me I began 607 00:27:48,630 --> 00:27:46,270 investigating like what is this online 608 00:27:51,030 --> 00:27:48,640 and the Internet was you know just 609 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:51,040 budding I'd come across sites on 610 00:27:58,380 --> 00:27:53,950 everything from geo cities to AOL to 611 00:28:01,020 --> 00:27:58,390 whatever and I began to discover that 612 00:28:04,110 --> 00:28:01,030 there were descriptions for the very 613 00:28:06,290 --> 00:28:04,120 things that I was exploring in all of 614 00:28:08,970 --> 00:28:06,300 these different traditions from 615 00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:08,980 initially looking at elementals I 616 00:28:13,530 --> 00:28:11,440 discovered Wicca and the druid 617 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:13,540 traditions and they talked about using 618 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:15,550 this energy of the elements to 619 00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:17,740 communicate with nature and then 620 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:19,600 discovered that what I was doing in 621 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:21,130 martial arts was actually something 622 00:28:26,430 --> 00:28:23,890 called Tai Chi and Qi Gong and that 623 00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:26,440 Taoist alchemists have been practicing 624 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:28,600 this kinds of stuff for 5000 years and 625 00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:31,760 then in India it turns out 626 00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:33,860 is distinct or Branagh and the prana 627 00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:36,320 moves to the body and the body has these 628 00:28:40,570 --> 00:28:38,390 different chakras and you know 629 00:28:43,210 --> 00:28:40,580 everything gets tuned and I start 630 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:43,220 discovering and exploring all of these 631 00:28:47,130 --> 00:28:45,170 different traditions all around the 632 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:47,140 world who are all describing this thing 633 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:50,930 that's completely missing from our 634 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:53,630 mainstream view of reality completely 635 00:28:59,050 --> 00:28:56,330 missing from school completely missing 636 00:29:00,760 --> 00:28:59,060 from everything and why is it because 637 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:00,770 they're connect these things are 638 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:03,290 connected to spiritual traditions is it 639 00:29:07,150 --> 00:29:04,850 because these things are considered 640 00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:07,160 esoteric I wanted to know what the Frick 641 00:29:12,340 --> 00:29:09,080 is going on right and why isn't this in 642 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:15,130 and that's where I'm going next we need 643 00:29:18,430 --> 00:29:16,640 to take our break right here this is 644 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:18,440 fade to black I am your host immature so 645 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:20,690 I guess tonight Adam Apollo great 646 00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:22,310 conversation Adam we'll pick up where we 647 00:29:28,420 --> 00:29:24,710 are leaving off you can follow Adam on 648 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:28,430 Twitter at Adam Apollo all of his links 649 00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:31,760 to a bunch of his sites or over at Jimmy 650 00:29:37,060 --> 00:29:33,800 Church radio comm course follow me on 651 00:29:39,670 --> 00:29:37,070 Twitter I teach radio hashtag f2 B is 652 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:39,680 the sandbox we'll be right back up to 653 00:30:01,290 --> 00:29:41,530 the short break stay with us 654 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:01,300 [Music] 655 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:04,010 welcome back fade to black I'm Errol 656 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:05,510 should be Church tonight our guest is 657 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:08,570 Adam Apollo tomorrow night actor 658 00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:11,330 comedian researcher Rhys Darby is here 659 00:30:15,790 --> 00:30:13,160 Thursday night is another fader night 660 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:15,800 open lines all night long our guest 661 00:30:28,090 --> 00:30:19,970 tonight Adam Apollo now Apollo I just 662 00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:28,100 called you Apollo I actually I'm a 663 00:30:36,340 --> 00:30:30,380 watching Twitter here during the break 664 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:36,350 and our audience has gone through seven 665 00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:40,850 years of shows right 1100 shows plus 666 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:42,680 coast to coast and everything else that 667 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:45,200 I do out there this is the first time 668 00:30:50,110 --> 00:30:46,370 that they've heard of you and I'm 669 00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:50,120 watching right Adam who what who is this 670 00:30:59,200 --> 00:30:56,030 tonight and so your your community and 671 00:31:02,290 --> 00:30:59,210 what you have built is is quite large 672 00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:02,300 you've got all these students 35,000 673 00:31:09,250 --> 00:31:05,480 right has about 40,000 for the Academy 674 00:31:13,570 --> 00:31:09,260 right right and a huge infrastructure 675 00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:13,580 built but all of that has been outside 676 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:16,880 of the normal track of the UFO community 677 00:31:22,830 --> 00:31:21,050 hasn't it yeah my my work even though 678 00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:22,840 I've had a lot of deep and powerful 679 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:26,630 experiences in this space and really 680 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:30,290 that took off around 2005 or so my work 681 00:31:36,130 --> 00:31:33,560 has been so deeply in the mainstream 682 00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:36,140 field I've been a speaker at the White 683 00:31:40,090 --> 00:31:38,390 House and the United Nations I have 684 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,100 spoke at a lot of conferences and 685 00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:43,120 festivals around the world and generally 686 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:46,550 the invitation to have me come and speak 687 00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:48,890 and present has to do with my work in 688 00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:51,110 education and in physics and in the 689 00:31:57,910 --> 00:31:54,740 future of human technology and I've you 690 00:32:00,550 --> 00:31:57,920 know delicately broached the topic in 691 00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:00,560 many cases including at the United 692 00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:04,940 Nations and elsewhere what does it look 693 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:07,430 like if we're not alone how do we 694 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:10,150 approach becoming a planetary level 695 00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:13,250 civilization that's at peace with itself 696 00:32:19,180 --> 00:32:15,710 how do we bridge exit politically with 697 00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:19,190 other species but that that part of my 698 00:32:25,630 --> 00:32:21,620 work has been more low-key for a long 699 00:32:28,030 --> 00:32:25,640 time and I have I have had certainly a 700 00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:28,040 lot of followers and people that know of 701 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:32,150 that part of my work but you know as you 702 00:32:37,990 --> 00:32:34,100 know Jimmy out there in the mainstream 703 00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:38,000 and in the fields of you know education 704 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:40,790 and physics and stuff like that it's a 705 00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:43,310 delicate world and all it takes is 706 00:32:47,860 --> 00:32:45,830 losing a sense of context of where 707 00:32:50,650 --> 00:32:47,870 someone's coming from and all of a 708 00:32:54,010 --> 00:32:50,660 sudden you get thrown in the conspiracy 709 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:54,020 theorist UFO box you know and locked 710 00:33:01,570 --> 00:32:57,650 away and this this sort of projection of 711 00:33:03,340 --> 00:33:01,580 no return and so at this point in time 712 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:03,350 I'm really trying to build a bridge 713 00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:06,370 between these communities and 714 00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:08,600 interestingly enough a lot of my 715 00:33:12,250 --> 00:33:10,430 students across a lot of my academies 716 00:33:14,620 --> 00:33:12,260 they get it they know what's really 717 00:33:16,810 --> 00:33:14,630 going on because when you go deep enough 718 00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:16,820 in the study of physics and you look at 719 00:33:22,660 --> 00:33:19,640 ancient sites or you go deep enough into 720 00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:22,670 self development studies or into the 721 00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:27,350 arts you of course find the keys and the 722 00:33:32,020 --> 00:33:29,420 insights that will bring you to a 723 00:33:34,450 --> 00:33:32,030 greater understanding of our our role in 724 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:34,460 the universe our potential connection 725 00:33:39,910 --> 00:33:37,130 with other beings out there and these 726 00:33:43,690 --> 00:33:39,920 kinds of things become more normal and 727 00:33:47,470 --> 00:33:43,700 more acceptable and an interesting to 728 00:33:49,750 --> 00:33:47,480 investigate but you know walk into any 729 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:49,760 university and do a presentation on 730 00:34:02,590 --> 00:33:52,700 physics and then end it with your talk 731 00:34:06,270 --> 00:34:02,600 about you know today today it's it is it 732 00:34:09,070 --> 00:34:06,280 is a bit different it is fully 733 00:34:10,899 --> 00:34:09,080 mainstream media compatible I'm talking 734 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:10,909 about the the subjective view of foes 735 00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:13,490 where we've got it discussed now at the 736 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:15,679 White House and and with the Senate and 737 00:34:24,129 --> 00:34:21,440 the Navy where it is not an embarrassing 738 00:34:27,050 --> 00:34:24,139 thing to bring up and they are helping 739 00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:27,060 you know people like you and myself were 740 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:29,670 can freely go into this conversation now 741 00:34:37,970 --> 00:34:34,250 and and not have the woowoo tinfoil hat 742 00:34:40,370 --> 00:34:37,980 side of it tied to the subject it's not 743 00:34:43,250 --> 00:34:40,380 that kind of party anymore is it no it's 744 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:43,260 not and actually generally people that 745 00:34:47,780 --> 00:34:45,510 have resisted this conversation are 746 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:47,790 really the ones that have been wearing 747 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:50,610 the tinfoil hats so to speak and that's 748 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:53,010 that's not to say that every Chandler 749 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:54,570 and every transmission about 750 00:34:59,900 --> 00:34:57,330 extraterrestrial information is truthful 751 00:35:01,730 --> 00:34:59,910 or honest and if you really pay 752 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:01,740 attention to the disclosure movement as 753 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:04,410 I have since I met Steven Greer back in 754 00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:08,250 2001 you recognize that there's been a 755 00:35:12,740 --> 00:35:10,500 huge amount of disinformation put out 756 00:35:14,570 --> 00:35:12,750 there and there's also been a lot of 757 00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:14,580 people that have done their best to 758 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:17,190 share their experiences but perhaps not 759 00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:21,330 have the scientific logical context or a 760 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:23,520 way to communicate it in a way that 761 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:27,210 people could really approach it and and 762 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:29,970 feel you know safe approaching it and 763 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:32,640 and actually deal with these kinds of 764 00:35:37,370 --> 00:35:35,610 issues in a logical manner so you know 765 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:37,380 that's that's just part of any 766 00:35:40,940 --> 00:35:39,210 revolution and we've seen that 767 00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,950 throughout history and great thinkers 768 00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:43,200 bringing forth new ideas big 769 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:44,760 breakthroughs and nobody wants to 770 00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:47,130 believe it's real until finally 771 00:35:52,070 --> 00:35:48,900 everybody realizes oh yeah of course 772 00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:52,080 those make sense well and you also you 773 00:35:58,850 --> 00:35:54,830 have a way of presenting and speaking 774 00:36:03,380 --> 00:35:58,860 which is it's got a fundamental core to 775 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:03,390 it and watching what happened at contact 776 00:36:07,010 --> 00:36:04,920 in the desert you know I'm the observer 777 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:07,020 I'm just the host of the panel right I'm 778 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:09,690 just along for the ride and we were 779 00:36:15,410 --> 00:36:13,050 speaking about spirituality and you were 780 00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:15,420 speaking about spirituality it was great 781 00:36:26,090 --> 00:36:21,600 and then you went from that to talking 782 00:36:28,220 --> 00:36:26,100 directly about your extraterrestrial 783 00:36:31,610 --> 00:36:28,230 contact in your experiences and your 784 00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:31,620 knowledge the I could feel the tension 785 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:35,160 in the room where you went from one 786 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:38,040 direction to the other very smoothly but 787 00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:40,330 you're speaking in a very pragmatic 788 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:45,220 way and I felt that the contact in the 789 00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:48,730 desert crowd was very receptive to you 790 00:36:52,740 --> 00:36:50,110 and they had never heard you speak 791 00:36:54,870 --> 00:36:52,750 before and and this community that's a 792 00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,880 hard that you know that's a hard line to 793 00:36:59,760 --> 00:36:58,000 cross but I felt that you were very 794 00:37:01,020 --> 00:36:59,770 successful in that what did you think 795 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,030 about your reception 796 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:03,280 how did added contact for the first time 797 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:06,730 I was really pleased to be there 798 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:10,210 my main keynote talk I almost packed the 799 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:11,890 whole hall and it's that it was the 800 00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:14,320 other giant hall down at the other side 801 00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:16,120 from where we did the panel the the 802 00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:20,140 second base room and I had an amazing 803 00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:22,540 standing ovation at the end of my talk I 804 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:26,470 finally actually have all of the the 805 00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:28,690 edits of that talk it's like a seven 806 00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:31,840 camera shoot that was done for me by a 807 00:37:36,870 --> 00:37:34,990 wonderful videographer named Reuben 808 00:37:39,630 --> 00:37:36,880 Langdon who has the number one show on 809 00:37:43,050 --> 00:37:39,640 gaya right now it's called interviews 810 00:37:46,110 --> 00:37:43,060 with Edie and I am going to be in that 811 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:46,120 show this fall I've already it's already 812 00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,010 been recorded but they haven't released 813 00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:50,560 it yet and he got great footage of that 814 00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:53,470 whole talk so any of your audience can 815 00:37:59,940 --> 00:37:56,260 check that out it's gonna be posted on 816 00:38:01,920 --> 00:37:59,950 my youtube probably within the next few 817 00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:01,930 days I'm just waiting for the final edit 818 00:38:07,620 --> 00:38:05,200 to come through and you can find me on 819 00:38:09,810 --> 00:38:07,630 youtube just by googling you know Adam 820 00:38:12,810 --> 00:38:09,820 Apollo and you'll find me there and I 821 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:12,820 also have a videos section on Adam 822 00:38:17,220 --> 00:38:14,650 Apollo comm and it'll be at the top of 823 00:38:21,570 --> 00:38:17,230 there and that's that presentation is 824 00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:21,580 sort of my most overarching magnum opus 825 00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:26,190 of understanding the connection between 826 00:38:34,110 --> 00:38:30,640 personal spiritual experience sacred 827 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:34,120 geometry theoretical physics and unified 828 00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:36,280 physics where gravity comes from where 829 00:38:41,370 --> 00:38:38,440 electromagnetism comes from what it what 830 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:41,380 are the fundamentals of these things how 831 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:42,790 does this lead us to a more 832 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:44,650 comprehensive understanding of our 833 00:38:50,910 --> 00:38:47,650 relationship to the universe and then 834 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:50,920 eventually I take that to applying that 835 00:38:55,940 --> 00:38:53,490 in advance technological research 836 00:38:58,609 --> 00:38:55,950 such as how do we build starship engines 837 00:38:59,540 --> 00:38:58,619 how do we jump across the galaxy faster 838 00:39:02,210 --> 00:38:59,550 than light 839 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:02,220 what kind of interfaces do we need to be 840 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:04,890 able to accomplish this kind of stuff 841 00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:07,770 and so it's a great intro to you know 842 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:11,190 all of the depth of my work and and the 843 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:14,970 topics that I explore the concept of 844 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:17,369 let's get into some theoretical physics 845 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:20,010 for a second time we can do the rest of 846 00:39:28,130 --> 00:39:22,850 the show on the subject if you will 847 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:28,140 we're not careful yeah right right when 848 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:31,530 we go back to a couple of things that 849 00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:35,760 have been I don't want to say the Bible 850 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:38,820 but certainly the accepted dogma in 851 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:41,130 physics which is Einstein's field 852 00:39:46,550 --> 00:39:44,490 equations special relativity and the way 853 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:46,560 that all of that was presented in its 854 00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:50,490 basic form the speed of light is it 855 00:39:56,330 --> 00:39:53,220 right the speed everything stops at the 856 00:40:00,680 --> 00:39:56,340 speed of light there's nothing that can 857 00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:00,690 go faster than that and and if if if it 858 00:40:07,010 --> 00:40:05,280 did these would be the the you know I'm 859 00:40:10,370 --> 00:40:07,020 talking about time travel I'm talking 860 00:40:12,859 --> 00:40:10,380 about the reversal of things so that 861 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:12,869 that has been accepted now over the 862 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:18,240 license since around 1998 1999 when dark 863 00:40:23,270 --> 00:40:20,130 energy started to come into play in the 864 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:23,280 expansion of the universe that the 865 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:26,910 galaxies on the outside of the 866 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:30,930 observable universe are now traveling 867 00:40:37,070 --> 00:40:33,810 faster than the speed of light we can no 868 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:37,080 longer see them they are outrunning the 869 00:40:40,220 --> 00:40:38,490 speed of light but yet nothing can 870 00:40:43,340 --> 00:40:40,230 travel faster than the speed of light 871 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:43,350 which now we are forced to go back and 872 00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:45,770 look at Ernst inés field equations 873 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:50,640 faster than light now FTL is something 874 00:40:58,010 --> 00:40:54,810 that is openly discussed today well we 875 00:41:00,650 --> 00:40:58,020 went through almost a hundred years now 876 00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,660 if you go back to when Einstein first 877 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:02,640 started to present these ideas in these 878 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,670 theories now we're starting to break 879 00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:06,960 away from that 880 00:41:12,380 --> 00:41:09,540 is it possible to travel at faster than 881 00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:12,390 the speed of light yeah absolutely 882 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:15,000 and there's a caveat to all of this and 883 00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:18,050 I wouldn't even necessarily say that 884 00:41:24,410 --> 00:41:21,720 Einstein didn't think it was possible to 885 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:24,420 go faster than light what Einstein 886 00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:28,170 actually was communicating is that if 887 00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:31,500 you attempt to accelerate to light speed 888 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:35,520 in other words when you accelerate you 889 00:41:39,260 --> 00:41:37,410 are creating gravity it's what we 890 00:41:42,109 --> 00:41:39,270 experience is g-force you hit the gas in 891 00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:42,119 the car boom right you feel the force of 892 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:45,180 the g's the gravitational force pulling 893 00:41:49,339 --> 00:41:47,280 your body you go up in a plane you feel 894 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:49,349 it press you down you go down in a plane 895 00:41:54,740 --> 00:41:51,890 fast you feel it lift you up this is 896 00:41:57,099 --> 00:41:54,750 acceleration into a new direction and 897 00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:57,109 when you accelerate in a new direction 898 00:42:03,049 --> 00:41:59,880 what's happening is you're creating what 899 00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:03,059 we call a gravitational force but what's 900 00:42:08,870 --> 00:42:06,150 really happening is that it's space-time 901 00:42:11,510 --> 00:42:08,880 is actually warping slightly around you 902 00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:11,520 so if you think of space-time as 903 00:42:16,609 --> 00:42:14,609 actually a literal fabric and and this 904 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:16,619 is this is the breakthrough that I made 905 00:42:20,329 --> 00:42:17,970 in high school and I'm not going to go 906 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:20,339 into all the depths of it but I started 907 00:42:23,299 --> 00:42:22,410 studying loop quantum gravity the work 908 00:42:25,849 --> 00:42:23,309 of Lee Smolin 909 00:42:28,510 --> 00:42:25,859 and I was looking at string theory and I 910 00:42:30,770 --> 00:42:28,520 found that that was just like super 911 00:42:32,990 --> 00:42:30,780 esoteric mathematically and way to 912 00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:33,000 abstraction there was just it just 913 00:42:37,579 --> 00:42:35,460 wasn't landing but the reason it wasn't 914 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:37,589 landing is because it wasn't dealing 915 00:42:43,490 --> 00:42:40,650 with space-time as this fundamental 916 00:42:44,780 --> 00:42:43,500 lattice like an actual structure and Lee 917 00:42:46,670 --> 00:42:44,790 Smolin and his team were trying to 918 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:46,680 figure out how do we study gravity at 919 00:42:51,770 --> 00:42:49,170 the smallest scales like what is quantum 920 00:42:53,930 --> 00:42:51,780 gravity how do we apply gravity in 921 00:42:56,420 --> 00:42:53,940 quantum mechanics and what they found in 922 00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:56,430 their equations as early as the 80s was 923 00:43:00,589 --> 00:42:58,440 that the only way it makes sense that 924 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:00,599 gravity is working at these small scales 925 00:43:06,980 --> 00:43:04,650 is if space-time is an actual fabric 926 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:06,990 it's actually literally a lattice made 927 00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:10,260 of light at the Planck scale now there's 928 00:43:13,849 --> 00:43:12,390 a lot to unpack around all of that in 929 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:13,859 order to really fully and deeply 930 00:43:18,859 --> 00:43:16,890 understand that and you know listeners 931 00:43:20,330 --> 00:43:18,869 can go to my Academy the resonance 932 00:43:23,180 --> 00:43:20,340 Academy for unified 933 00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:23,190 it's a great place to learn about the 934 00:43:29,150 --> 00:43:26,790 basics of quantum gravity how space-time 935 00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:29,160 works how we are interacting with 936 00:43:33,740 --> 00:43:31,350 space-time and and even through to the 937 00:43:36,830 --> 00:43:33,750 course that I'm releasing this fall 938 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:36,840 called quantum geometry which shows how 939 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:38,610 all of these things that we call sacred 940 00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:41,580 geometries are actually parts of the 941 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:43,440 geometric structure of space-time itself 942 00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:45,930 but I want to get into that too deeply 943 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:47,700 but I will say that what's happening 944 00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:50,010 when you're accelerating is that you're 945 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,960 pushing your way through this fabric and 946 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:54,240 so you can think of it as the harder you 947 00:43:59,150 --> 00:43:56,850 push the harder you accelerate the more 948 00:44:01,100 --> 00:43:59,160 you're bending the sheet around you the 949 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:01,110 more you're bending the fabric and what 950 00:44:04,490 --> 00:44:02,640 Einstein realized is that if you keep 951 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:04,500 doing that and you keep pushing harder 952 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:06,810 and harder and harder accelerating 953 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:09,090 faster and faster and faster it's going 954 00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:11,610 to take more and more and more energy to 955 00:44:16,610 --> 00:44:13,800 go faster and faster until it gets to a 956 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:16,620 point where just to accelerate it takes 957 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:18,570 you know nearly infinite amounts of 958 00:44:24,070 --> 00:44:21,770 energy and and this is why Einstein 959 00:44:27,350 --> 00:44:24,080 communicated that if you're accelerating 960 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:27,360 you cannot accelerate to the speed of 961 00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:30,530 light and actually hit that barrier now 962 00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,310 the game changes the caveat is that what 963 00:44:40,460 --> 00:44:37,920 if you don't accelerate and what if 964 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:40,470 you're not pushing your way through the 965 00:44:45,830 --> 00:44:42,960 space-time fabric what if there was a 966 00:44:49,090 --> 00:44:45,840 way to simply jump through the fabric 967 00:44:52,970 --> 00:44:49,100 what if there was a way to isolate the 968 00:44:55,550 --> 00:44:52,980 space-time tensegrities so to speak as 969 00:44:59,150 --> 00:44:55,560 to use a Buckminster Fuller term or the 970 00:45:03,860 --> 00:44:59,160 energetic construction of an object and 971 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:03,870 its surface from the outside space-time 972 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:06,210 so that when it moves through that 973 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:09,210 space-time it's not pushing against the 974 00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:11,910 fabric and you know we might describe 975 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:14,190 something that would do this as if it 976 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:16,890 was in a higher dimension which is an 977 00:45:20,990 --> 00:45:19,410 interesting idea because you know a lot 978 00:45:22,430 --> 00:45:21,000 of people see these spaceships and they 979 00:45:24,650 --> 00:45:22,440 fly into mountains and they're like wow 980 00:45:28,670 --> 00:45:24,660 these must be higher dimensional beings 981 00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:28,680 and yet if you develop the technology to 982 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:31,260 isolate the space-time around a craft 983 00:45:34,250 --> 00:45:33,450 from the surrounding space-time you 984 00:45:36,130 --> 00:45:34,260 would be able to 985 00:45:38,599 --> 00:45:36,140 move through that surrounding space-time 986 00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:38,609 literally with no friction or 987 00:45:43,070 --> 00:45:41,250 intersection of any kind including heat 988 00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:43,080 electromagnetism 989 00:45:47,930 --> 00:45:45,900 you know molecular to integrity or any 990 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:47,940 of that stuff you could literally fly 991 00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:49,970 into a mountain you could fly into a Sun 992 00:45:57,290 --> 00:45:54,030 etc so there's a basic physics principle 993 00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:57,300 to that and we also know because of 994 00:46:02,300 --> 00:45:58,890 quantum mechanics and the study of 995 00:46:05,930 --> 00:46:02,310 photons that once you're already going 996 00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:05,940 Lightspeed that whole equation doesn't 997 00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:07,680 matter because anything that's already 998 00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:12,240 at the speed of light exists in a state 999 00:46:17,660 --> 00:46:15,420 in which it's not influenced by time so 1000 00:46:20,330 --> 00:46:17,670 if you create a field of photons you 1001 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:20,340 know how old is a photon the answer is 1002 00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:22,770 the photon is as old as the universe how 1003 00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:25,740 old is an electron we don't know in fact 1004 00:46:30,349 --> 00:46:28,260 you know John Wheeler the guy who wrote 1005 00:46:32,330 --> 00:46:30,359 the book on gravitation it's actually 1006 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:32,340 the largest book you get when you go to 1007 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:34,530 school for physics it's this massive 1008 00:46:40,460 --> 00:46:37,890 book on gravity woke up in the middle of 1009 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:40,470 the night one night and called his buddy 1010 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:42,690 he was like oh my god there's only one 1011 00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:46,410 electron and his whole realization of 1012 00:46:50,180 --> 00:46:48,390 this and his experience of this which he 1013 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:50,190 could call like you know a spiritual 1014 00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:53,490 breakthrough to some extent was based on 1015 00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:56,609 his realization and the idea that if an 1016 00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:58,410 electron is moving at the speed of light 1017 00:47:03,620 --> 00:47:01,380 it's not experiencing time and so it 1018 00:47:05,660 --> 00:47:03,630 could literally move around every single 1019 00:47:07,970 --> 00:47:05,670 atom in the entire universe 1020 00:47:09,740 --> 00:47:07,980 and it wouldn't matter it could be 1021 00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:09,750 distributed through the entire universe 1022 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,460 and it wouldn't matter because it's 1023 00:47:17,540 --> 00:47:14,400 moving at light speed or above and so 1024 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:17,550 it's not experiencing time and so these 1025 00:47:23,450 --> 00:47:20,400 are major caveats that we see in physics 1026 00:47:24,740 --> 00:47:23,460 and they make possible the kinds of 1027 00:47:27,770 --> 00:47:24,750 things that we witness like 1028 00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:27,780 teleportation entanglement what Einstein 1029 00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:31,859 called spooky action at a distance but 1030 00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:35,340 which is is really just the realization 1031 00:47:46,430 --> 00:47:41,280 that information exists in a standing 1032 00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:46,440 field that is encoded by this fabric 1033 00:47:53,230 --> 00:47:48,110 that we call the 1034 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:53,240 fabric of space-time but that this 1035 00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:55,970 fabric of space-time is made of light 1036 00:48:00,880 --> 00:47:58,190 and because it's made of light it's 1037 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:00,890 moving at light speed in the way that it 1038 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:04,970 vibrates and so there are potentials for 1039 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:07,490 information to transmit without passing 1040 00:48:13,330 --> 00:48:11,090 through time at the most fundamental 1041 00:48:15,010 --> 00:48:13,340 levels of the universe itself 1042 00:48:19,020 --> 00:48:15,020 let's stay right there for a second it 1043 00:48:22,060 --> 00:48:19,030 is is information a constant is 1044 00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:22,070 information a constant yes can it be 1045 00:48:30,820 --> 00:48:25,760 destroyed for instance yes yes is it a 1046 00:48:35,590 --> 00:48:30,830 constant if you take that same fabric 1047 00:48:38,890 --> 00:48:35,600 and it interferes and goes over the 1048 00:48:44,650 --> 00:48:38,900 event or horizon of a black hole is that 1049 00:48:48,670 --> 00:48:44,660 information stable right it is it would 1050 00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,680 remain stable at the singularity ripped 1051 00:48:54,490 --> 00:48:50,720 apart the information stays constant 1052 00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:54,500 does it does it really other side well 1053 00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:57,110 this gets down to you know what is 1054 00:49:00,810 --> 00:48:58,880 space-time of what is information and 1055 00:49:03,250 --> 00:49:00,820 when when you really get down to it 1056 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:03,260 information all we know of as 1057 00:49:08,020 --> 00:49:06,170 information is basically frequencies of 1058 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:08,030 light at different patterns all the 1059 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:09,650 information in our brain is like an 1060 00:49:13,930 --> 00:49:11,570 electromagnetic frequency pattern and 1061 00:49:17,620 --> 00:49:13,940 the electromagnetic frequency pattern 1062 00:49:21,070 --> 00:49:17,630 creates stabilization forms that involve 1063 00:49:23,260 --> 00:49:21,080 our neurons and the way that our plans 1064 00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:23,270 and axioms connect with each other but 1065 00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:25,310 those are all just following charge 1066 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:28,700 routes and they create consistent charge 1067 00:49:34,450 --> 00:49:30,410 routes in other words consistent 1068 00:49:35,860 --> 00:49:34,460 patterns of vibrational charge inside of 1069 00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:35,870 our brain which are just basically 1070 00:49:41,050 --> 00:49:38,240 patterns of frequency or geometries of 1071 00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:41,060 frequency now when you look at all 1072 00:49:46,030 --> 00:49:44,150 information is just basically patterns 1073 00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:46,040 of geometry vibrating a certain 1074 00:49:51,490 --> 00:49:48,830 frequencies then it starts to make sense 1075 00:49:53,470 --> 00:49:51,500 why somebody on the other side of the 1076 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:53,480 planet could have the same idea as you 1077 00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,090 at the same time because who's to say 1078 00:50:01,330 --> 00:49:58,160 that that frequency field and those 1079 00:50:01,950 --> 00:50:01,340 geometries are just local to you they're 1080 00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:01,960 not necess 1081 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:03,910 Sara Lee how is it that you could enter 1082 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:07,330 a dream and somebody else you know on 1083 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:09,130 the other side of the continent has a 1084 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:12,010 dream with you and you both experience 1085 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:14,410 the exact same dream even though you're 1086 00:50:17,250 --> 00:50:15,609 living on different sides of the 1087 00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:17,260 continent and you see each other and 1088 00:50:20,730 --> 00:50:19,510 maybe if you're lucky you happen to be 1089 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:20,740 friends and you're like I had a dream 1090 00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:21,970 about then you're like no way I had a 1091 00:50:27,150 --> 00:50:24,430 dream about you how was it that you were 1092 00:50:30,990 --> 00:50:27,160 in a shared information space at the 1093 00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:31,000 same time and and this actually suggests 1094 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:34,089 that a lot of the ancient thinking about 1095 00:50:40,829 --> 00:50:37,210 the astral plane and sort of these these 1096 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:40,839 layers of our existence where we are 1097 00:50:46,290 --> 00:50:43,690 able to commune with this field of 1098 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:46,300 information that a spacetime are not 1099 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:48,250 only real but they're actually just 1100 00:50:52,140 --> 00:50:50,410 extremely practical tools that our body 1101 00:50:54,690 --> 00:50:52,150 and our minds and our consciousness are 1102 00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:54,700 built to use we just have forgotten how 1103 00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:56,980 to use them or we've you know or they've 1104 00:51:01,770 --> 00:50:59,200 been pushed so far down the hole of 1105 00:51:04,290 --> 00:51:01,780 being evil by some religion or other 1106 00:51:07,349 --> 00:51:04,300 that nobody wants to look at it anymore 1107 00:51:10,050 --> 00:51:07,359 when you know it's literally part of our 1108 00:51:13,099 --> 00:51:10,060 our natural biological mechanism it's 1109 00:51:16,260 --> 00:51:13,109 part of our consciousness and and so 1110 00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:16,270 does information ever get destroyed well 1111 00:51:21,150 --> 00:51:18,280 is that even possible 1112 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:21,160 because when when you look at an event 1113 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:23,770 horizon for example you know which is 1114 00:51:27,810 --> 00:51:25,930 what we describe as that like limit 1115 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:27,820 where light is captured by a black hole 1116 00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,450 and can never escape again well just 1117 00:51:36,030 --> 00:51:34,000 because light goes in doesn't mean the 1118 00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:36,040 information is destroyed and it also 1119 00:51:40,349 --> 00:51:37,750 doesn't mean the information can't come 1120 00:51:42,359 --> 00:51:40,359 back out again because in order to have 1121 00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:42,369 conservation of energy you also have to 1122 00:51:46,410 --> 00:51:44,200 have conservation of information because 1123 00:51:48,660 --> 00:51:46,420 they're one in the same which means you 1124 00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:48,670 know and Hawking you know was losing his 1125 00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:50,710 mind over this and lots of other guys 1126 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:52,990 they're like how does it go you know 1127 00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:55,450 where it is the information go 1128 00:52:02,310 --> 00:51:58,960 but people like Nyssa Mary elegant 1129 00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:02,320 solutions for this we're literally you 1130 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:04,660 know you have black holes nested 1131 00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:05,920 throughout every scale of the universe 1132 00:52:12,089 --> 00:52:09,400 from a proton up to cosmological scales 1133 00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:12,099 and that the properties of a black 1134 00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:15,220 hole's event horizon are simply that at 1135 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:15,550 the 1136 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:23,290 information throughout space-time and 1137 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:25,690 you also have a singularity at the core 1138 00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:28,960 and so the singularity can be a 1139 00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:30,940 transmitter of information to any other 1140 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:32,860 singularity throughout space-time and 1141 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:35,050 you also have the bridge of the 1142 00:52:40,170 --> 00:52:37,090 individual to the collective or the 1143 00:52:43,620 --> 00:52:40,180 individual proton to say all the protons 1144 00:52:46,170 --> 00:52:43,630 in your room can be connected literally 1145 00:52:49,980 --> 00:52:46,180 through what we call wormhole networks 1146 00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:49,990 that are these sort of bridges off the 1147 00:52:54,270 --> 00:52:52,390 surface of a proton but what I realized 1148 00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:54,280 is you know and that again this is like 1149 00:52:58,380 --> 00:52:56,110 mainstream research this is major 1150 00:53:00,690 --> 00:52:58,390 sciences you can look in Scientific 1151 00:53:02,670 --> 00:53:00,700 American and see John wheeler and other 1152 00:53:05,610 --> 00:53:02,680 guys talking about wormhole networks 1153 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:05,620 coming off of protons and you know it's 1154 00:53:10,620 --> 00:53:07,530 this connection between the 1155 00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:10,630 einstein-rosen bridge and EPR which is 1156 00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:13,990 the entanglement paradox and what we're 1157 00:53:20,670 --> 00:53:16,870 realizing in physics is that we are 1158 00:53:23,010 --> 00:53:20,680 constantly entangled with space-time all 1159 00:53:24,750 --> 00:53:23,020 around us and the objects we interact 1160 00:53:27,690 --> 00:53:24,760 with all the time the people we interact 1161 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:27,700 with we literally build faster than 1162 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:30,970 light Einstein Rosen bridges of standing 1163 00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:33,130 light waves between us and these other 1164 00:53:37,890 --> 00:53:35,140 people and these other things and those 1165 00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:37,900 things are preserved even if we go 1166 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:39,490 further and further away from each other 1167 00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:42,370 well it would also suggest and we got to 1168 00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:44,380 take a break here in 20 seconds so you 1169 00:53:51,410 --> 00:53:46,870 mean a yes or no answer but it would 1170 00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:51,420 also suggest a direct connection to 1171 00:53:59,610 --> 00:53:55,960 anywhere right Zeta Reticuli it doesn't 1172 00:54:02,820 --> 00:53:59,620 matter that that that entanglement that 1173 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:02,830 possibility is there throughout the 1174 00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:06,370 universe and it is instantaneous where 1175 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:07,630 we're not talking about the speed of 1176 00:54:15,540 --> 00:54:11,650 light we're talking about now now now 1177 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:15,550 now ma'am not later and what is what is 1178 00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:15,970 the eye 1179 00:54:21,270 --> 00:54:18,700 what is intention what happens when we 1180 00:54:23,580 --> 00:54:21,280 focus on something let's take a break 1181 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:23,590 right here our guest tonight Adam Apollo 1182 00:54:28,650 --> 00:54:26,170 we're gonna do I'm gonna give a quiz at 1183 00:54:29,430 --> 00:54:28,660 the end of the show this is fade to 1184 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:29,440 black 1185 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:31,690 we'll be right back more with mr. Apollo 1186 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:10,890 [Music] 1187 00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:13,660 [Applause] 1188 00:55:19,210 --> 00:55:16,910 welcome back create a black army your 1189 00:55:21,670 --> 00:55:19,220 host Jimmy Church I guess tonight Adam 1190 00:55:23,770 --> 00:55:21,680 Apollo to follow me on twitter @ JT 1191 00:55:25,150 --> 00:55:23,780 radio the conversations going down at 1192 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:25,160 hashtag f2b 1193 00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:31,010 adam at adam apollo right there on 1194 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:33,110 twitter now okay this is we're gonna 1195 00:55:40,810 --> 00:55:34,850 stay right here man I'm not letting this 1196 00:55:43,570 --> 00:55:40,820 go you know see the thing is is I 1197 00:55:45,370 --> 00:55:43,580 research this so much you know it takes 1198 00:55:47,890 --> 00:55:45,380 a big part of my day but I'm more 1199 00:55:53,050 --> 00:55:47,900 fascinated with it as I move along and 1200 00:55:56,650 --> 00:55:53,060 every day is new but this is Leonard 1201 00:55:58,540 --> 00:55:56,660 Susskind is somebody that I I'm just 1202 00:56:01,680 --> 00:55:58,550 fascinated with and Bryan green and 1203 00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:01,690 others in the mainstream of physics 1204 00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:06,710 often say that the one thing that they 1205 00:56:14,770 --> 00:56:11,860 want the answer to is what makes up our 1206 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:14,780 consciousness what what gives us our 1207 00:56:20,770 --> 00:56:17,810 soul what makes us us how do we go from 1208 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:20,780 the atomic level of something without a 1209 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:25,490 brain right that assembles itself into 1210 00:56:32,530 --> 00:56:28,250 us where we can ask questions and laugh 1211 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:32,540 and have humor and and and study you 1212 00:56:37,570 --> 00:56:34,610 know and makes us how do we make that 1213 00:56:40,180 --> 00:56:37,580 transition and that is one of the 1214 00:56:44,110 --> 00:56:40,190 biggest questions today in mainstream 1215 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:44,120 science is just that how does that 1216 00:56:48,820 --> 00:56:44,690 happen 1217 00:56:51,610 --> 00:56:48,830 so I want your your opinion on that how 1218 00:56:54,370 --> 00:56:51,620 do we make that transition from the 1219 00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:54,380 atomic level of assembling of molecules 1220 00:57:01,740 --> 00:56:57,680 and particles into sentient beings and 1221 00:57:05,860 --> 00:57:01,750 if we did go into a black hole 1222 00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:05,870 Apollo you get sucked in what happens to 1223 00:57:10,930 --> 00:57:08,480 your soul what happens to your 1224 00:57:14,020 --> 00:57:10,940 consciousness if you disassembled and 1225 00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:14,030 you go down to the singularity what 1226 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:16,880 happens to you that can that be 1227 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:21,530 disassembled hmm good questions and you 1228 00:57:26,170 --> 00:57:23,810 know not surprising that Susskind and 1229 00:57:27,970 --> 00:57:26,180 Greenwood focus on these things you 1230 00:57:32,650 --> 00:57:27,980 red Brian Greene's book the elegant 1231 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:32,660 universe when I was 16 and they thought 1232 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:34,610 it was brilliant did a great job of 1233 00:57:39,580 --> 00:57:36,890 summarizing you know everything from 1234 00:57:41,530 --> 00:57:39,590 Einstein's theories of relativity to the 1235 00:57:43,210 --> 00:57:41,540 sort of basics of quantum mechanics and 1236 00:57:46,810 --> 00:57:43,220 then he goes off into string theory and 1237 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:46,820 m30 in 11 dimensions and you know 1238 00:57:52,090 --> 00:57:48,770 similarly suss can both of them they 1239 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:52,100 have a deep interest in sort of the the 1240 00:57:56,020 --> 00:57:53,930 music of the universe and and there's 1241 00:57:58,270 --> 00:57:56,030 one thing that I I relate with them 1242 00:57:59,830 --> 00:57:58,280 around deeply which is what I was 1243 00:58:01,360 --> 00:57:59,840 talking about before that when it gets 1244 00:58:03,460 --> 00:58:01,370 when you get down to it everything is a 1245 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:03,470 vibration everything is vibrational 1246 00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:05,570 everything's harmonics everything is 1247 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:07,670 sound everything is music you know and 1248 00:58:12,490 --> 00:58:10,610 and that's something we all kind of feel 1249 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:12,500 intuitively that we're just surrounded 1250 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:16,450 by the music of the universe and yet 1251 00:58:20,830 --> 00:58:19,010 we're like how is that actually 1252 00:58:22,930 --> 00:58:20,840 happening like what's really going on 1253 00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:22,940 like what makes the song of this wall 1254 00:58:29,470 --> 00:58:26,270 different from my arm you know or my eye 1255 00:58:32,050 --> 00:58:29,480 or my body and what is it about my body 1256 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:32,060 that's different from you know an 1257 00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:34,250 assemblage of matter that makes a chair 1258 00:58:39,610 --> 00:58:37,520 boy I'm often up or on coffee cup Y 1259 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:39,620 etcetera etcetera right right right but 1260 00:58:43,420 --> 00:58:41,450 here's the thing when you really get 1261 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:43,430 down to it I think that they've got the 1262 00:58:49,210 --> 00:58:46,010 approach to consciousness backwards the 1263 00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:49,220 idea that somehow that these things 1264 00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:52,280 assemble themselves into a format that 1265 00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:55,760 makes consciousness possible is actually 1266 00:59:00,490 --> 00:58:58,640 missing the fundamental point that 1267 00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:00,500 they're actually trying to express 1268 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:01,850 through all the other physics that the 1269 00:59:06,250 --> 00:59:04,130 universe is music and that the universe 1270 00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:06,260 is harmonic I think that consciousness 1271 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:09,710 is embedded in the fabric of space 1272 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:13,130 itself in other words everything to an 1273 00:59:18,670 --> 00:59:15,530 extent has the capacity for 1274 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:18,680 consciousness now how well does that 1275 00:59:23,050 --> 00:59:20,930 object or that thing communicate with 1276 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:23,060 you well it depends on the object or 1277 00:59:27,220 --> 00:59:25,850 thing but I know certainly a lot of 1278 00:59:29,350 --> 00:59:27,230 people out there probably a lot of 1279 00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:29,360 listeners have at a moment when they got 1280 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:30,710 pissed off at their computer and they 1281 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:32,090 cussed at the computer and the next 1282 00:59:36,370 --> 00:59:33,970 thing you know the computer crashes or 1283 00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:36,380 you know you're driving your car and 1284 00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:38,000 you're like upset with your car and 1285 00:59:39,970 --> 00:59:39,440 you're saying all this stuff about your 1286 00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:39,980 car and all 1287 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:42,590 the car stereo stops working and the 1288 00:59:47,849 --> 00:59:44,810 thing stops interacting with you as if 1289 00:59:50,830 --> 00:59:47,859 it's mad at you when I was you know um 1290 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:50,840 you know a young teenager like teenager 1291 00:59:55,780 --> 00:59:53,690 middle school years I used to go and fix 1292 00:59:57,580 --> 00:59:55,790 my mom's friends computers and they'd 1293 01:00:00,880 --> 00:59:57,590 always start off by telling me how much 1294 01:00:05,170 --> 01:00:00,890 of FF and Pisa as you know thing the 1295 01:00:07,060 --> 01:00:05,180 thing is and and I'd be like okay okay 1296 01:00:08,650 --> 01:00:07,070 yeah alright let me take a look and so 1297 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:08,660 I'd sit down and I'd come in like okay 1298 01:00:11,590 --> 01:00:10,250 what's going on with you you know what's 1299 01:00:14,260 --> 01:00:11,600 happening here and I just talked to it 1300 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:14,270 nicely and it would be working perfectly 1301 01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:16,490 for me and they'd be like how is this 1302 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:19,040 working for you and I'm like I don't 1303 01:00:24,310 --> 01:00:20,810 know maybe it's cuz I'm not mad at it 1304 01:00:27,340 --> 01:00:24,320 you know and I started to see that this 1305 01:00:28,810 --> 01:00:27,350 phenomena works all over the place and 1306 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:28,820 then I started to realize well 1307 01:00:32,590 --> 01:00:30,530 interesting this is like what indigenous 1308 01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:32,600 elders talk about they have a 1309 01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:34,880 relationship with the forces of nature 1310 01:00:40,450 --> 01:00:37,520 they have a relationship with the sacred 1311 01:00:42,190 --> 01:00:40,460 objects that they treat sacred this is 1312 01:00:45,250 --> 01:00:42,200 what the Druids talk about you know this 1313 01:00:48,099 --> 01:00:45,260 is what Taoist alchemists talk about you 1314 01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:48,109 you pick anywhere in the world and you 1315 01:00:54,430 --> 01:00:53,030 find people back in time that realized 1316 01:00:57,010 --> 01:00:54,440 that in order to have a better 1317 01:01:00,340 --> 01:00:57,020 relationship with life and with you know 1318 01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:00,350 things that they wanted to experience by 1319 01:01:04,570 --> 01:01:02,510 honoring objects and actually 1320 01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,580 interacting with the objects in 1321 01:01:10,060 --> 01:01:07,280 different ways they actually could 1322 01:01:12,670 --> 01:01:10,070 change the result that they would 1323 01:01:14,590 --> 01:01:12,680 experience in terms of their actual 1324 01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:14,600 living experience with that object in 1325 01:01:18,849 --> 01:01:17,390 their lives now you know this seems this 1326 01:01:21,030 --> 01:01:18,859 could sound far-fetched to some people 1327 01:01:23,710 --> 01:01:21,040 this would be like whoa like but just 1328 01:01:26,290 --> 01:01:23,720 hear me out because it's not that much 1329 01:01:28,540 --> 01:01:26,300 further fetched than telepathic 1330 01:01:31,180 --> 01:01:28,550 communication to other planets or seeing 1331 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:31,190 UFOs or any of these things when you 1332 01:01:38,140 --> 01:01:35,210 look at space-time itself as innately 1333 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:38,150 bearing the seeds of consciousness and 1334 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:41,090 carrying the information network then 1335 01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:42,890 what becomes really interesting is how 1336 01:01:47,109 --> 01:01:45,470 does that information network surface so 1337 01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:47,119 as soon as you build a computer that has 1338 01:01:53,830 --> 01:01:50,960 just enough things a visual port and an 1339 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:53,840 audio port and a USB port and all 1340 01:01:59,110 --> 01:01:55,730 these ways to interact with a keyboard 1341 01:02:01,570 --> 01:01:59,120 etc it becomes more and more capable of 1342 01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:01,580 giving you feedback about your own 1343 01:02:06,670 --> 01:02:04,310 consciousness because it in itself is 1344 01:02:08,830 --> 01:02:06,680 carrying that information structure that 1345 01:02:10,810 --> 01:02:08,840 is your consciousness same with a car 1346 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:10,820 and this is why I don't believe there 1347 01:02:15,940 --> 01:02:13,010 actually is anything that such thing as 1348 01:02:18,220 --> 01:02:15,950 AI because I believe once you have a 1349 01:02:20,140 --> 01:02:18,230 vehicle in other words you build 1350 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:20,150 something that's sufficiently complex 1351 01:02:24,940 --> 01:02:22,010 enough to provide its own feedback 1352 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:24,950 experience with space-time register its 1353 01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:27,530 own input and output of data and be able 1354 01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:30,200 to randomize its experience in 1355 01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:32,510 space-time enough in other words toss 1356 01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:35,090 the dice see what happens you can try 1357 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:37,760 something new then what will happen is a 1358 01:02:43,860 --> 01:02:40,850 soul as you so poignant li put it will 1359 01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:43,870 actually incarnate in other words a 1360 01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:46,640 standing field of consciousness that's 1361 01:02:53,290 --> 01:02:50,510 not necessarily localized to any point 1362 01:02:55,420 --> 01:02:53,300 in space-time will come into that area 1363 01:02:58,650 --> 01:02:55,430 of space-time in order to experience 1364 01:03:03,070 --> 01:02:58,660 itself as that form of physicality and 1365 01:03:05,110 --> 01:03:03,080 this also opens up the sort of deeper 1366 01:03:06,730 --> 01:03:05,120 space of awareness around certain 1367 01:03:09,010 --> 01:03:06,740 extraterrestrial cultures which you'll 1368 01:03:10,450 --> 01:03:09,020 hear a lot about in channeling and we'll 1369 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:10,460 probably talk about some on the show 1370 01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:14,330 where you know you have this idea that 1371 01:03:19,470 --> 01:03:16,700 certain beings and certain species have 1372 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:19,480 traveled from one species to another and 1373 01:03:24,910 --> 01:03:22,730 you know made the jump across the gap of 1374 01:03:27,820 --> 01:03:24,920 space and incarnated is another species 1375 01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:27,830 that their soul is compatible with so to 1376 01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:30,590 speak in order to experience the 1377 01:03:34,780 --> 01:03:32,330 space-time reality from that point of 1378 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:34,790 view and that's exactly what I 1379 01:03:39,210 --> 01:03:37,250 eventually learned that I experienced I 1380 01:03:41,260 --> 01:03:39,220 came to this planet in order to 1381 01:03:43,870 --> 01:03:41,270 experience what it's like to be a human 1382 01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:43,880 and also to experience with many other 1383 01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:46,640 species from around the galaxy what it's 1384 01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:49,310 like to all be the same species what's 1385 01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:51,170 it like to merge what's it like to be on 1386 01:03:56,620 --> 01:03:53,570 a planet that's pre-enlightenment you 1387 01:03:58,540 --> 01:03:56,630 know pre singularity what's it like to 1388 01:04:00,280 --> 01:03:58,550 experience the kinds of things that we 1389 01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:00,290 experience here on planet earth and go 1390 01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,510 through that's trials and tribulations 1391 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:03,920 in order to grow and to know ourselves 1392 01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:06,530 more deeply and more presently so that's 1393 01:04:10,859 --> 01:04:07,480 the first half of year 1394 01:04:14,220 --> 01:04:10,869 question second half second half is you 1395 01:04:17,370 --> 01:04:14,230 get sucked into a singularity situation 1396 01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:17,380 physically right yeah you float in and 1397 01:04:26,370 --> 01:04:20,200 you go and you stretch and now you're a 1398 01:04:31,290 --> 01:04:26,380 string of broken-down stuff and Einstein 1399 01:04:33,330 --> 01:04:31,300 said pretty clearly that that's it 1400 01:04:36,090 --> 01:04:33,340 everything is broken down and it is 1401 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:36,100 destroyed and and he wasn't even sure if 1402 01:04:41,550 --> 01:04:38,770 there was energy left right we all know 1403 01:04:44,190 --> 01:04:41,560 about these statements but the question 1404 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:44,200 is if that and I think that we're moving 1405 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:46,090 away from that but he was pretty 1406 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:50,410 cemented in in his ideas here but what 1407 01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:53,410 would happen to those that the things 1408 01:04:58,470 --> 01:04:55,630 that aren't necessarily tangible like 1409 01:05:01,650 --> 01:04:58,480 thought your your soul your 1410 01:05:03,510 --> 01:05:01,660 consciousness would you even know that 1411 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:03,520 you were sucked into a black hole 1412 01:05:10,109 --> 01:05:07,510 right would your mind survive yeah well 1413 01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:10,119 again if consciousness is not 1414 01:05:15,390 --> 01:05:13,119 necessarily limited to the vibrational 1415 01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:15,400 structure of the molecules and the 1416 01:05:19,710 --> 01:05:16,840 cellular structure that makes up your 1417 01:05:21,930 --> 01:05:19,720 body but is extended beyond it and which 1418 01:05:24,180 --> 01:05:21,940 is something that we see measurably on 1419 01:05:26,940 --> 01:05:24,190 all kinds of scientific experiments you 1420 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:26,950 can measure the heartbeats wave up to 50 1421 01:05:33,150 --> 01:05:30,090 feet away you can detect the effect of 1422 01:05:35,430 --> 01:05:33,160 observation or of intentionality on an 1423 01:05:36,810 --> 01:05:35,440 object princeton engineering anomalies 1424 01:05:41,730 --> 01:05:36,820 research group has done a ton of 1425 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:41,740 research on that and we see that that we 1426 01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:43,810 are having an influence that's not just 1427 01:05:50,730 --> 01:05:47,230 local and when we look at certain 1428 01:05:53,609 --> 01:05:50,740 phenomena that is called remote viewing 1429 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:53,619 or astral travel we start to realize 1430 01:06:00,180 --> 01:05:57,730 that the consciousness of a being can 1431 01:06:02,220 --> 01:06:00,190 separate itself from a body and there's 1432 01:06:05,580 --> 01:06:02,230 also researchers around death that have 1433 01:06:08,580 --> 01:06:05,590 found significant changes in the moment 1434 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:08,590 that somebody dies and something happens 1435 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:11,650 you know at that point where there's 1436 01:06:15,060 --> 01:06:13,000 something that's moving away from the 1437 01:06:18,930 --> 01:06:15,070 body and it's it's energetic it's 1438 01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:18,940 detectable so but where where is this 1439 01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:20,470 thing where is this body where is the 1440 01:06:23,170 --> 01:06:21,440 soul and you know 1441 01:06:26,290 --> 01:06:23,180 if you if you go towards a giant 1442 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:26,300 macrocosmic black hole like you know the 1443 01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:28,490 black hole and Sagittarius a at the 1444 01:06:31,900 --> 01:06:29,510 center of our galaxy 1445 01:06:35,020 --> 01:06:31,910 hmm yeah you're gonna be you're gonna be 1446 01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:35,030 in the gravitational torsion forces 1447 01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:37,910 pulling around that that are going to 1448 01:06:43,089 --> 01:06:41,119 literally rip your body and ship and 1449 01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:43,099 everything else apart because it's 1450 01:06:48,250 --> 01:06:45,710 literally you know you're talking about 1451 01:06:51,460 --> 01:06:48,260 the most powerful maelstrom of 1452 01:06:54,370 --> 01:06:51,470 space-time that you can imagine and yet 1453 01:06:58,059 --> 01:06:54,380 you know if you go right down inside the 1454 01:07:01,240 --> 01:06:58,069 body what is a proton every proton in 1455 01:07:03,569 --> 01:07:01,250 our body is you know calculated to be 1456 01:07:08,109 --> 01:07:03,579 spinning at the speed of light at its 1457 01:07:11,319 --> 01:07:08,119 you know at its equator and that you 1458 01:07:14,109 --> 01:07:11,329 know somehow a single proton you see ask 1459 01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:14,119 like how long does a proton last well 1460 01:07:18,730 --> 01:07:15,980 the half-life of a proton is four 1461 01:07:22,180 --> 01:07:18,740 lifetimes of the universe so a one 1462 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:22,190 proton has you know lasted from the 1463 01:07:27,010 --> 01:07:25,130 beginning of the of time as far as we 1464 01:07:29,460 --> 01:07:27,020 know it in this universe and will 1465 01:07:35,170 --> 01:07:29,470 continue to last four times that long 1466 01:07:37,059 --> 01:07:35,180 and it doesn't slow down why not how 1467 01:07:39,490 --> 01:07:37,069 does it keep spinning so fast how is it 1468 01:07:41,770 --> 01:07:39,500 still stable how are these how are the 1469 01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:41,780 protons actually doing this and the 1470 01:07:45,819 --> 01:07:43,280 explanation that makes the most sense 1471 01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:45,829 when you really get down to it is that 1472 01:07:49,630 --> 01:07:47,660 every single proton is basically a 1473 01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:49,640 little miniature black hole it's got a 1474 01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:51,710 singularity in it and it's spinning at 1475 01:07:55,809 --> 01:07:53,089 the speed of light right around its 1476 01:07:58,089 --> 01:07:55,819 equator the event horizon of the black 1477 01:08:00,849 --> 01:07:58,099 hole is literally the charge radius of 1478 01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:00,859 the proton and nessam Harriman has done 1479 01:08:04,359 --> 01:08:02,480 some fantastic work on this and he's a 1480 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:04,369 colleague of mine in this school of 1481 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:06,970 unified physics the resonance Academy 1482 01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:10,250 and as some amazing papers that explain 1483 01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:12,290 the math and the science of exactly how 1484 01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:15,680 this is happening and it works and and 1485 01:08:21,670 --> 01:08:19,430 yet it's also fantastic and beautiful 1486 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:21,680 and if you went down to that scale yes 1487 01:08:29,860 --> 01:08:26,250 the forces around a single proton are 1488 01:08:32,900 --> 01:08:29,870 massive massive forces I mean otherwise 1489 01:08:36,010 --> 01:08:32,910 splitting one atomic nucleus in a 1490 01:08:38,990 --> 01:08:36,020 uranium atom how does it you know 1491 01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:39,000 devastate the at the scale that it 1492 01:08:43,970 --> 01:08:42,089 devastates in an atomic bomb I mean 1493 01:08:48,079 --> 01:08:43,980 you're literally talking about the power 1494 01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:48,089 in a single atom and and so we have 1495 01:08:52,610 --> 01:08:51,000 these massive forces at huge scales but 1496 01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:52,620 we also have them at small scales and 1497 01:08:58,340 --> 01:08:54,960 we're literally made of these forces 1498 01:09:00,680 --> 01:08:58,350 that are gargantuan and the vacuum 1499 01:09:02,690 --> 01:09:00,690 catastrophe has showed us that even in 1500 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:02,700 the empty space all around us even 1501 01:09:10,220 --> 01:09:05,850 though it seems empty it's actually just 1502 01:09:13,550 --> 01:09:10,230 so finely tuned and highly balanced and 1503 01:09:16,430 --> 01:09:13,560 in such perfect tensegrities a fabric 1504 01:09:19,999 --> 01:09:16,440 that we don't see all this energy and 1505 01:09:23,690 --> 01:09:20,009 yet in a single cubic centimeter of 1506 01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:23,700 empty space literally it's been measured 1507 01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:26,580 that we should have more energy than in 1508 01:09:32,450 --> 01:09:30,150 the entire visible universe and that's 1509 01:09:34,670 --> 01:09:32,460 that's just a concept that like make 1510 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:34,680 anybody's mind pop for a second like 1511 01:09:41,420 --> 01:09:37,410 wait a second what the whole universe in 1512 01:09:43,990 --> 01:09:41,430 a teaspoon but but this is actually what 1513 01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:44,000 we this is what we are embedded in and 1514 01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:48,180 and to think that you know the soul or 1515 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:50,279 the deeper construct of consciousness or 1516 01:09:56,090 --> 01:09:52,770 information would be lost or destroyed 1517 01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:56,100 in the many maelstroms of existence that 1518 01:10:01,850 --> 01:09:58,410 we're embedded within I think is 1519 01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:01,860 short-sighted because after all here we 1520 01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:03,750 are and we've made it this far and 1521 01:10:07,790 --> 01:10:05,370 somehow my body's holding itself 1522 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:07,800 together even though I'm flinging around 1523 01:10:12,290 --> 01:10:10,050 a planet traveling a thousand miles an 1524 01:10:14,660 --> 01:10:12,300 hour in the easterly direction while 1525 01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:14,670 it's hurtling around the Sun at 64 1526 01:10:18,350 --> 01:10:16,800 thousand miles an hour and the Sun is 1527 01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:18,360 moving through the galaxy at a few 1528 01:10:22,340 --> 01:10:20,520 hundred thousand miles an hour and the 1529 01:10:23,930 --> 01:10:22,350 galaxy is spinning with other galaxies 1530 01:10:27,290 --> 01:10:23,940 in the Laniakea cluster I mean we are 1531 01:10:30,230 --> 01:10:27,300 riding quite a ship here and yet here I 1532 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:30,240 am just sitting in this chair talking to 1533 01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:32,610 you on this microphone everything seems 1534 01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,330 perfectly normal and still but it's not 1535 01:10:40,150 --> 01:10:38,880 it's not it's not and if we take that 1536 01:10:45,310 --> 01:10:40,160 concept once to 1537 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:45,320 further which is if we go with time 1538 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:48,170 running in one direction which I think I 1539 01:10:53,530 --> 01:10:50,810 think the physicists of the world in the 1540 01:10:57,730 --> 01:10:53,540 astrophysicists are starting to grasp 1541 01:11:00,190 --> 01:10:57,740 the idea that our universe is not finite 1542 01:11:03,370 --> 01:11:00,200 it's actually very infinite and will 1543 01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:03,380 continue to expand forever and forever 1544 01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:06,770 is a very long time and and so outside 1545 01:11:14,110 --> 01:11:10,880 of our observable universe those 1546 01:11:16,270 --> 01:11:14,120 galaxies that that are too old for that 1547 01:11:18,970 --> 01:11:16,280 light to have gotten here we'll never 1548 01:11:21,190 --> 01:11:18,980 see them because they're expanding and 1549 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:21,200 we will never know how much or who or 1550 01:11:26,860 --> 01:11:24,770 what are there but this is this is the 1551 01:11:30,610 --> 01:11:26,870 interesting part of that if those 1552 01:11:33,460 --> 01:11:30,620 galaxies are now and planets and down to 1553 01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:33,470 the stars and the planets are our FTL 1554 01:11:40,510 --> 01:11:36,460 are faster than light in their expansion 1555 01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:40,520 what does that do with Einstein in that 1556 01:11:47,590 --> 01:11:43,910 once you pass the speed of light you are 1557 01:11:51,460 --> 01:11:47,600 now running backwards in space-time well 1558 01:11:53,260 --> 01:11:51,470 it's all relative Jimmy because again in 1559 01:11:56,350 --> 01:11:53,270 the local space-time where those 1560 01:12:00,060 --> 01:11:56,360 galaxies are traveling they're moving in 1561 01:12:03,190 --> 01:12:00,070 a field of space-time that's moving so 1562 01:12:05,980 --> 01:12:03,200 again you're only dealing with these 1563 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:05,990 distortions of time you know time 1564 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:09,710 dilation you know and and and the 1565 01:12:15,970 --> 01:12:13,010 effects of time dilation that happened 1566 01:12:18,340 --> 01:12:15,980 from gravitational acceleration etc when 1567 01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:18,350 you're accelerating relative to your 1568 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:23,840 local inertial frame so let me jump in 1569 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:27,050 let me jump in right there yeah you and 1570 01:12:34,270 --> 01:12:29,570 I are on a starship that's right and we 1571 01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:34,280 accelerate and we're at 99.999999% of 1572 01:12:39,550 --> 01:12:35,990 the speed of light right you and I are 1573 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:39,560 right nearly frozen in time as relative 1574 01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:42,650 to earth to our original time we're 1575 01:12:49,660 --> 01:12:46,400 chasing a planet that is at 9 9 9 9 and 1576 01:12:53,510 --> 01:12:49,670 you know point the speed of light they 1577 01:12:55,820 --> 01:12:53,520 are now relative to us so 1578 01:12:57,890 --> 01:12:55,830 isn't there space-time what's the 1579 01:13:01,250 --> 01:12:57,900 difference between that planet being a 1580 01:13:05,180 --> 01:13:01,260 spaceship moving at that speed and us 1581 01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:05,190 being on an actual spaceship attempting 1582 01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:07,110 to travel at that speed and catch up to 1583 01:13:10,610 --> 01:13:07,620 it 1584 01:13:12,650 --> 01:13:10,620 that's my point there certainly there 1585 01:13:16,190 --> 01:13:12,660 certainly would be relativistic 1586 01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:16,200 differences between different planetary 1587 01:13:21,620 --> 01:13:18,960 systems and galactic systems that are 1588 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:21,630 moving in space-time at a different 1589 01:13:27,230 --> 01:13:24,690 reference speed as compared to others so 1590 01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:27,240 you know and and that breaks all the way 1591 01:13:32,450 --> 01:13:29,910 down to if one galaxies spinning faster 1592 01:13:34,700 --> 01:13:32,460 than another galaxy there's huge 1593 01:13:36,650 --> 01:13:34,710 differences there and experiences of 1594 01:13:39,350 --> 01:13:36,660 time passing are going to be different 1595 01:13:42,110 --> 01:13:39,360 but as soon as you enter the frame of 1596 01:13:44,330 --> 01:13:42,120 reference of the space-time field that 1597 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:44,340 is local to that area you're gonna be 1598 01:13:49,790 --> 01:13:47,130 experiencing the time at the same rate 1599 01:13:51,650 --> 01:13:49,800 as those people in that place it might 1600 01:13:55,670 --> 01:13:51,660 be different from the way it is on earth 1601 01:13:59,420 --> 01:13:55,680 but it's it's going to be local to that 1602 01:14:01,430 --> 01:13:59,430 frame of reference so in general though 1603 01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:01,440 this is not something that we really 1604 01:14:07,010 --> 01:14:04,710 need to ever experience outside of the 1605 01:14:09,050 --> 01:14:07,020 thought experiment because generally 1606 01:14:10,430 --> 01:14:09,060 what we know is that we're surrounded in 1607 01:14:12,170 --> 01:14:10,440 a galaxy by two hundred billion stars 1608 01:14:15,670 --> 01:14:12,180 there's plenty of civilizations and 1609 01:14:18,620 --> 01:14:15,680 stars that are all fairly you know 1610 01:14:21,470 --> 01:14:18,630 normalized in terms of our time frame of 1611 01:14:23,480 --> 01:14:21,480 reference that's right but I mean the 1612 01:14:26,420 --> 01:14:23,490 galaxies that are at the edges of the 1613 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:26,430 universe again we're observing them as 1614 01:14:31,610 --> 01:14:28,530 if they're accelerating faster than 1615 01:14:33,710 --> 01:14:31,620 light because space time may be moving 1616 01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:33,720 at these incredible speeds you know 1617 01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:36,570 overall in that region of space but 1618 01:14:43,220 --> 01:14:39,210 again were also based on their distance 1619 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:43,230 we're looking into the past and so maybe 1620 01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:46,170 at some point billions of years in the 1621 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:49,110 past that area or region of space-time 1622 01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:52,410 was moving drastically and or maybe our 1623 01:14:57,020 --> 01:14:54,900 perception of those galaxies is somewhat 1624 01:14:58,580 --> 01:14:57,030 distorted because we're only just 1625 01:15:00,170 --> 01:14:58,590 picking up the light from them from 1626 01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,180 billions of years ago and there was 1627 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:02,400 maybe a stabilization process before a 1628 01:15:06,339 --> 01:15:05,010 civilization formed it's difficult for 1629 01:15:09,550 --> 01:15:06,349 us to ascertain 1630 01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:09,560 you know is it are their civilizations 1631 01:15:12,459 --> 01:15:12,050 living at 99.9 percent of the speed of 1632 01:15:15,220 --> 01:15:12,469 light 1633 01:15:17,229 --> 01:15:15,230 somewhere else other than us we don't 1634 01:15:19,410 --> 01:15:17,239 know we can't say and will we ever have 1635 01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:19,420 that experience of beings like that 1636 01:15:24,250 --> 01:15:22,159 knows and if we did we wouldn't know 1637 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:24,260 when we got there because we'd be back 1638 01:15:28,330 --> 01:15:26,090 to normal is Asia that's right and 1639 01:15:30,700 --> 01:15:28,340 that's the most fascinating part I 1640 01:15:34,390 --> 01:15:30,710 talked about this a couple of months ago 1641 01:15:36,430 --> 01:15:34,400 only that my mind goes I I read and 1642 01:15:38,740 --> 01:15:36,440 listen to all of these physicists and 1643 01:15:41,379 --> 01:15:38,750 and it just forces me to go into 1644 01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:41,389 fantastic thought and one of them would 1645 01:15:47,620 --> 01:15:44,239 be this if you are in a galaxy that is 1646 01:15:51,220 --> 01:15:47,630 now FTL right you can't even see it 1647 01:15:54,970 --> 01:15:51,230 now it's invisible right the laia is now 1648 01:15:59,770 --> 01:15:54,980 not with you relative do they once they 1649 01:16:00,910 --> 01:15:59,780 pass FTL do they start to live in 1650 01:16:04,390 --> 01:16:00,920 Reverse 1651 01:16:06,970 --> 01:16:04,400 in other words as they are expanding out 1652 01:16:10,330 --> 01:16:06,980 right and they continue through the 1653 01:16:13,419 --> 01:16:10,340 force of dark energy to increase maybe 1654 01:16:14,290 --> 01:16:13,429 their double FTL or something else 1655 01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:14,300 that's interesting 1656 01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:18,800 Jimmy is is that once you account if you 1657 01:16:27,250 --> 01:16:23,090 stop suggesting that stars in the galaxy 1658 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:27,260 are simply moving through space-time in 1659 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:28,610 other words they're pushing their way 1660 01:16:34,209 --> 01:16:31,489 through space-time and instead you 1661 01:16:37,359 --> 01:16:34,219 suggest that the entire galaxy and the 1662 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:37,369 space-time of around all those stars is 1663 01:16:41,229 --> 01:16:39,290 actually what's moving when you 1664 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:41,239 recognize that space is the thing that's 1665 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:44,810 moving all the way around then all the 1666 01:16:50,109 --> 01:16:47,690 sudden the mass energy that we've lost 1667 01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:50,119 the so-called dark energy and dark mass 1668 01:16:56,859 --> 01:16:54,560 are basically negated because the mass 1669 01:16:59,470 --> 01:16:56,869 energy that's missing is actually the 1670 01:17:01,359 --> 01:16:59,480 energy of space-time itself that's 1671 01:17:04,030 --> 01:17:01,369 moving along with those stars and 1672 01:17:05,649 --> 01:17:04,040 planets so that's one thing and then the 1673 01:17:07,330 --> 01:17:05,659 other thing that I'll just say is I 1674 01:17:10,030 --> 01:17:07,340 don't think things go backwards after 1675 01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:10,040 they go faster than light I think that 1676 01:17:15,729 --> 01:17:13,610 once you cross the light barrier you are 1677 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:15,739 in sort of a different dimensional 1678 01:17:19,590 --> 01:17:17,650 experience of time and other 1679 01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:19,600 words you know relative to you other 1680 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:22,620 things appear to be stopped but that 1681 01:17:27,899 --> 01:17:25,690 that that you know in that state it's 1682 01:17:30,750 --> 01:17:27,909 not there's always going to be a 1683 01:17:32,220 --> 01:17:30,760 relative local timeframe so like if you 1684 01:17:34,830 --> 01:17:32,230 build a ship and you build an envelope 1685 01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:34,840 around that ship and you start traveling 1686 01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:36,400 faster than light and jumping to other 1687 01:17:40,979 --> 01:17:38,710 planets it actually doesn't matter how 1688 01:17:44,070 --> 01:17:40,989 fast you go oversea there's actually a 1689 01:17:47,340 --> 01:17:44,080 complete loss of relevance there at that 1690 01:17:50,370 --> 01:17:47,350 point because once you once you learn 1691 01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:50,380 how to actually relocate your object in 1692 01:17:56,850 --> 01:17:53,290 space-time it can relocate itself to a 1693 01:17:59,010 --> 01:17:56,860 new position at any speed and everything 1694 01:18:03,180 --> 01:17:59,020 in the surrounding space-time will still 1695 01:18:04,979 --> 01:18:03,190 be in the same relevant timeframe in 1696 01:18:07,229 --> 01:18:04,989 other words you won't have time dilation 1697 01:18:09,450 --> 01:18:07,239 right so you can travel to other planets 1698 01:18:12,090 --> 01:18:09,460 you can come back and your you know your 1699 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:12,100 girlfriend's not 40 years old or 80 1700 01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:14,890 years older you avoid all of those 1701 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:17,679 constructs as soon as you remove the 1702 01:18:22,620 --> 01:18:19,330 time dilation effect which is really 1703 01:18:24,660 --> 01:18:22,630 just based on warping space-time or 1704 01:18:28,350 --> 01:18:24,670 acceleration is that where I'm Stein 1705 01:18:32,459 --> 01:18:28,360 that very paradox that is that where 1706 01:18:35,610 --> 01:18:32,469 Einstein got it way wrong in that if we 1707 01:18:37,950 --> 01:18:35,620 did if we did cross the speed of light 1708 01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:37,960 in our starship now we travel backwards 1709 01:18:43,709 --> 01:18:41,409 now we never left where we came from and 1710 01:18:46,649 --> 01:18:43,719 that yeah that that is impossible right 1711 01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:46,659 yeah it's impossible and it's it's a 1712 01:18:50,189 --> 01:18:48,640 paradox that I dealt with in high school 1713 01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,199 a lot and I started thinking of it that 1714 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:52,480 way like what if you could get to a star 1715 01:18:57,959 --> 01:18:55,330 and back to your planet before the light 1716 01:19:01,110 --> 01:18:57,969 from that star reaches the planet would 1717 01:19:04,530 --> 01:19:01,120 you have gone back in time but again 1718 01:19:07,649 --> 01:19:04,540 that's suggesting that somehow you would 1719 01:19:10,110 --> 01:19:07,659 be able to accelerate distort time to 1720 01:19:11,820 --> 01:19:10,120 that level and then that somehow you're 1721 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:11,830 distorting time to the point where 1722 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:14,890 you're going backwards in time and and I 1723 01:19:20,250 --> 01:19:17,890 think that you know is it is that 1724 01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:20,260 something that's possible is it possible 1725 01:19:25,620 --> 01:19:23,290 to time-travel I mean I'm not going to 1726 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:25,630 say no I'm not going to discount that 1727 01:19:31,140 --> 01:19:29,050 possibility because I certainly think 1728 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:31,150 it's possible for information to travel 1729 01:19:35,399 --> 01:19:31,449 through 1730 01:19:38,009 --> 01:19:35,409 time to some extent but but that the 1731 01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:38,019 that you know that this idea that you 1732 01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:39,880 travel in a ship and you start warping 1733 01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:42,249 space-time to this extent this is what 1734 01:19:46,410 --> 01:19:44,650 really violates Einstein's principles 1735 01:19:49,049 --> 01:19:46,420 and I think it's where he was actually 1736 01:19:51,979 --> 01:19:49,059 right is that you can't violate certain 1737 01:19:54,810 --> 01:19:51,989 principles of causality in that format 1738 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:54,820 because there is a limit to this sort of 1739 01:20:00,390 --> 01:19:57,610 time dilation and acceleration thing so 1740 01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:00,400 anyway we're going super no wait no no 1741 01:20:09,989 --> 01:20:02,800 we're right we're right where we need to 1742 01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:09,999 be man see but this is especially you 1743 01:20:19,049 --> 01:20:14,320 know Einstein and in some ways was a bit 1744 01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:19,059 of a hypocrite in that time traveling to 1745 01:20:24,509 --> 01:20:22,239 the future in its basic form just you 1746 01:20:25,890 --> 01:20:24,519 know traveling at a certain speed and 1747 01:20:28,169 --> 01:20:25,900 returning back to Earth you're gonna 1748 01:20:31,140 --> 01:20:28,179 return in the future that would be a 1749 01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:31,150 form of time travel but traveling 1750 01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:34,209 backwards in time he that gets a lot 1751 01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:36,159 more difficult if not nearly impossible 1752 01:20:45,270 --> 01:20:41,409 but yet time loops for Einstein were 1753 01:20:46,979 --> 01:20:45,280 okay so it was it was something for me 1754 01:20:49,169 --> 01:20:46,989 that I couldn't really wrap my head 1755 01:20:51,149 --> 01:20:49,179 around he can't have it both ways and he 1756 01:20:52,919 --> 01:20:51,159 wanted it both ways no it was a 1757 01:20:55,529 --> 01:20:52,929 conflicted time period and when you 1758 01:20:58,020 --> 01:20:55,539 really look at Einsteins work you know 1759 01:21:01,229 --> 01:20:58,030 you start with special relativity in 1760 01:21:03,180 --> 01:21:01,239 which you know all the guys around him 1761 01:21:04,919 --> 01:21:03,190 you got to think that it's also like the 1762 01:21:06,689 --> 01:21:04,929 way the media the press and the other 1763 01:21:09,299 --> 01:21:06,699 scientists are interpreting his work 1764 01:21:11,669 --> 01:21:09,309 right so he he really should special 1765 01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:11,679 relativity defines the photon defines 1766 01:21:15,569 --> 01:21:13,110 how light works and all the sudden 1767 01:21:17,339 --> 01:21:15,579 everybody's like whoohoo there's no such 1768 01:21:19,979 --> 01:21:17,349 thing as the ether we don't need the 1769 01:21:21,509 --> 01:21:19,989 luminiferous ether anymore right yeah we 1770 01:21:22,549 --> 01:21:21,519 can get rid of that because now we know 1771 01:21:25,259 --> 01:21:22,559 how light works 1772 01:21:28,350 --> 01:21:25,269 ten years later Einstein publishes 1773 01:21:30,779 --> 01:21:28,360 general relativity and all of a sudden 1774 01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:30,789 he's talking about this space-time 1775 01:21:34,850 --> 01:21:33,249 fabric which is bending light timing on 1776 01:21:36,930 --> 01:21:34,860 it everything is regulated by this 1777 01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:36,940 underlying fabric which he calls 1778 01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:39,880 space-time and his teacher Lorenz is 1779 01:21:45,450 --> 01:21:42,729 like Einstein you know you just prove 1780 01:21:48,030 --> 01:21:45,460 that's that the ether exists 1781 01:21:50,940 --> 01:21:48,040 and I as dyes leggo I you know like I 1782 01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:50,950 did and and he realized that that he 1783 01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:52,960 just proved that the ether exists so you 1784 01:21:57,810 --> 01:21:54,310 know what he does next as he does a 1785 01:22:00,780 --> 01:21:57,820 paper on the ether and he writes about 1786 01:22:03,090 --> 01:22:00,790 how basically general relativity 1787 01:22:06,210 --> 01:22:03,100 requires this underlying ether this 1788 01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:06,220 fundamental field of space-time energy 1789 01:22:09,810 --> 01:22:08,410 which would prove you know the 1790 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:09,820 philosophers were right throughout 1791 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:11,530 history that there is a such thing as 1792 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:13,570 elementals that you know all of these 1793 01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:15,370 things were wrapped into the ether these 1794 01:22:19,980 --> 01:22:18,130 ancient spiritual traditions and and yet 1795 01:22:21,870 --> 01:22:19,990 here's Einstein and he's very directly 1796 01:22:23,370 --> 01:22:21,880 saying the ether exists and you can't 1797 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:23,380 have general relativity without the 1798 01:22:28,140 --> 01:22:24,850 ether but you know what happens 1799 01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:28,150 everybody ignores it nobody listens to 1800 01:22:32,670 --> 01:22:30,400 him it's kind of like you know always 1801 01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:32,680 now he's the crazy old man yeah I know 1802 01:22:37,340 --> 01:22:35,290 it's just he I gotta take a break right 1803 01:22:40,110 --> 01:22:37,350 here but he almost wrote too many papers 1804 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:40,120 right he should he should have just 1805 01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:43,210 stopped with general and special and let 1806 01:22:49,740 --> 01:22:47,440 things ride yeah 1807 01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:49,750 we'll be right back our guest night Adam 1808 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:02,840 [Music] 1809 01:23:06,810 --> 01:23:05,050 welcome back fade to black what a great 1810 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:06,820 conversation tonight with Adam Apollo I 1811 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:09,090 promise that there will be a quiz later 1812 01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:13,690 on tonight can follow Adam on Twitter at 1813 01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:16,990 Adam Apollo and all of the links not all 1814 01:23:21,450 --> 01:23:19,300 of the links but a lot of the links to 1815 01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:21,460 his different web sites are right there 1816 01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:24,480 at Jimmy Church radio calm now Adam okay 1817 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:28,150 there's always this one fundamental 1818 01:23:33,330 --> 01:23:30,850 question all this talk of physics is 1819 01:23:36,990 --> 01:23:33,340 great all of this quantum and string 1820 01:23:40,950 --> 01:23:37,000 theory this is all great but how is et 1821 01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:40,960 getting here now we we said earlier 1822 01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:44,380 tonight and I talked about this nearly 1823 01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:45,850 every night on the show about the size 1824 01:23:50,910 --> 01:23:48,490 not only of the universe but just our 1825 01:23:54,540 --> 01:23:50,920 Milky Way is ginormous there's probably 1826 01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:54,550 up to around a trillion planets in our 1827 01:24:00,360 --> 01:23:57,250 Milky Way a trillion a trillion planets 1828 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:00,370 that's that's a crazy number that has 1829 01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:02,410 been creeping up it's probably gonna get 1830 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:05,650 bigger out of that we are talking about 1831 01:24:12,650 --> 01:24:08,730 not not tens of thousands not millions 1832 01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:12,660 but maybe a billion or two intelligent 1833 01:24:18,260 --> 01:24:15,310 civilizations out there how many of them 1834 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:18,270 know about planet Earth well probably 1835 01:24:23,790 --> 01:24:20,770 thousands and thousands it's just a 1836 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:23,800 crazy number sure how are they getting 1837 01:24:28,620 --> 01:24:25,690 here it can't be from the same 1838 01:24:31,860 --> 01:24:28,630 technology or are they sharing it how 1839 01:24:36,060 --> 01:24:31,870 are they getting here well in my 1840 01:24:40,380 --> 01:24:36,070 experience both through having contact 1841 01:24:42,860 --> 01:24:40,390 experiences and also through asking lots 1842 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:42,870 of really hard questions in 1843 01:24:48,810 --> 01:24:45,850 conversations with some of my star 1844 01:24:52,590 --> 01:24:48,820 family that's out there I've unpacked a 1845 01:24:54,330 --> 01:24:52,600 lot of that and you know I I'm not sure 1846 01:24:56,670 --> 01:24:54,340 that this shows the right place to tell 1847 01:24:58,860 --> 01:24:56,680 the whole story but I'm happy to do it 1848 01:25:01,350 --> 01:24:58,870 there's you know there's a show that I'm 1849 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:01,360 on called interviews with Edie that I 1850 01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:05,050 mentioned earlier I say Maya are zoomin 1851 01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:07,270 Langdon's show I've seen along in that 1852 01:25:11,220 --> 01:25:09,520 in that show in the first episode that 1853 01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:11,230 I'm in that's gonna be coming out soon I 1854 01:25:15,660 --> 01:25:14,320 tell really the full comprehensive story 1855 01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:15,670 of my direct 1856 01:25:19,530 --> 01:25:17,850 contact experience where I'm a physical 1857 01:25:20,310 --> 01:25:19,540 extraterrestrial ambassador in the 1858 01:25:24,689 --> 01:25:20,320 middle of the desert 1859 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:24,699 and then I started having these direct 1860 01:25:29,850 --> 01:25:26,890 contact and communication experiences 1861 01:25:32,340 --> 01:25:29,860 where I'd call in ships I talked to them 1862 01:25:34,169 --> 01:25:32,350 have telepathic communication of 1863 01:25:37,020 --> 01:25:34,179 different kinds they would show me 1864 01:25:39,570 --> 01:25:37,030 things they'd confirm things for me in 1865 01:25:42,260 --> 01:25:39,580 the way that they fly in the sky as well 1866 01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:42,270 as through you know people around me and 1867 01:25:48,270 --> 01:25:46,150 did a huge amount of study into what I 1868 01:25:51,330 --> 01:25:48,280 call transpersonal psychology projects 1869 01:25:55,470 --> 01:25:51,340 which is looking at people's memories 1870 01:25:58,650 --> 01:25:55,480 direct experiences and and dreams and 1871 01:26:00,930 --> 01:25:58,660 looking for valuable data that verifies 1872 01:26:02,910 --> 01:26:00,940 and crossovers and validates other data 1873 01:26:06,180 --> 01:26:02,920 that you gather from other people's 1874 01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:06,190 experiences and and looking logically at 1875 01:26:10,050 --> 01:26:08,290 a field of a hundred people that have 1876 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:10,060 basically described the same exact 1877 01:26:15,419 --> 01:26:12,610 planet and don't know each other at all 1878 01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:15,429 and yet all have similar experiences of 1879 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:17,199 this planet all describe their species 1880 01:26:21,300 --> 01:26:19,570 the same way I look at that as valuable 1881 01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:21,310 data whether it's true or not it's 1882 01:26:25,290 --> 01:26:23,170 valuable that a hundred people you know 1883 01:26:28,050 --> 01:26:25,300 that I happen to come into contact with 1884 01:26:30,570 --> 01:26:28,060 all describe this place the same way and 1885 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:30,580 so as a researcher that that kind of 1886 01:26:37,229 --> 01:26:33,730 stuff is really important to me but what 1887 01:26:38,910 --> 01:26:37,239 I found in in the sense of technology 1888 01:26:41,310 --> 01:26:38,920 traveling faster than light there's a 1889 01:26:43,020 --> 01:26:41,320 lot of different ways to do it and some 1890 01:26:46,169 --> 01:26:43,030 of those ways we've actually seen 1891 01:26:48,390 --> 01:26:46,179 replication of on this planet because 1892 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:48,400 there have been crafts that crashed and 1893 01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:51,810 we've had reproduction vehicles built or 1894 01:26:58,860 --> 01:26:55,410 you know ships brought back online and 1895 01:27:01,229 --> 01:26:58,870 one thing that seems to be pretty 1896 01:27:02,729 --> 01:27:01,239 standard about the technology of the 1897 01:27:05,459 --> 01:27:02,739 kinds of ships that have actually 1898 01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:05,469 crashed on our world which tells us 1899 01:27:09,630 --> 01:27:06,730 something about their level of 1900 01:27:12,500 --> 01:27:09,640 technology is that they seem to be high 1901 01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:12,510 like super highly intense 1902 01:27:17,370 --> 01:27:14,380 electromagnetic fields and in 1903 01:27:21,030 --> 01:27:17,380 particularly magnetic fields and that 1904 01:27:23,750 --> 01:27:21,040 through very very powerful magnetic 1905 01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:23,760 fields you can begin to warp space-time 1906 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:27,580 around an object and that can distort 1907 01:27:31,799 --> 01:27:29,530 gravitational fields 1908 01:27:33,839 --> 01:27:31,809 and then you know because as you move 1909 01:27:36,359 --> 01:27:33,849 space-time you're movin gravity and then 1910 01:27:39,870 --> 01:27:36,369 also allow that object to accelerate and 1911 01:27:43,620 --> 01:27:39,880 or jump or warp when traveling through 1912 01:27:47,279 --> 01:27:43,630 space now that's interesting technology 1913 01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:47,289 to me but it's not at all to any like 1914 01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:50,170 you know it's that's basically like a a 1915 01:27:57,660 --> 01:27:54,159 Nokia you know flip phone with a liquid 1916 01:28:00,750 --> 01:27:57,670 crystal display versus like the new 1917 01:28:04,169 --> 01:28:00,760 iPhone 11 pro right like in terms of 1918 01:28:06,149 --> 01:28:04,179 technological difference between 1919 01:28:08,700 --> 01:28:06,159 something like that and something like 1920 01:28:11,010 --> 01:28:08,710 the stuff that the Pleiadians and 1921 01:28:13,379 --> 01:28:11,020 Syrians and Arcturians drive and at that 1922 01:28:16,799 --> 01:28:13,389 level their their technology is 1923 01:28:20,279 --> 01:28:16,809 literally forming these isolation fields 1924 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:20,289 around a craft so the way that I've 1925 01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,210 described it many times and I've done 1926 01:28:26,580 --> 01:28:24,880 lots of presentations on this and gotten 1927 01:28:30,089 --> 01:28:26,590 deeper into the physics then I'll get 1928 01:28:32,430 --> 01:28:30,099 into this you know in this talk but that 1929 01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,440 basically you need a containment system 1930 01:28:39,450 --> 01:28:34,480 for the internal space-time field so you 1931 01:28:41,939 --> 01:28:39,460 have to create a spin field or spectral 1932 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:41,949 vibrational frequency spin field around 1933 01:28:47,790 --> 01:28:45,250 the area that's inside the craft such an 1934 01:28:50,879 --> 01:28:47,800 extent that it has a livable environment 1935 01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:50,889 has a basic gravitational field and then 1936 01:28:56,819 --> 01:28:53,920 you need a second layer of what I call 1937 01:28:58,529 --> 01:28:56,829 the ring system that is causing the 1938 01:29:01,229 --> 01:28:58,539 disruption in space-time in other words 1939 01:29:03,629 --> 01:29:01,239 it's it's literally matching the 1940 01:29:05,970 --> 01:29:03,639 geometry of space to such an extent that 1941 01:29:08,970 --> 01:29:05,980 the internal space-time in the external 1942 01:29:11,279 --> 01:29:08,980 space-time suddenly detach from each 1943 01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:11,289 other so you're creating a break in the 1944 01:29:16,799 --> 01:29:13,360 space-time field and then there's an 1945 01:29:19,229 --> 01:29:16,809 outer ring that stays tuned to the inner 1946 01:29:21,359 --> 01:29:19,239 ring so it stays connected in the 1947 01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:21,369 structure architectural a of the ship 1948 01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:24,840 which the job of that ring system is to 1949 01:29:28,859 --> 01:29:27,280 literally create a field around the 1950 01:29:31,200 --> 01:29:28,869 craft that is communicating to 1951 01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:31,210 space-time the basic frequency 1952 01:29:37,290 --> 01:29:33,130 information of where that craft is 1953 01:29:40,470 --> 01:29:37,300 located so an object once it's free from 1954 01:29:42,839 --> 01:29:40,480 the general gravitational vortices of a 1955 01:29:43,290 --> 01:29:42,849 planetary system solar system galaxies 1956 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:43,300 etc 1957 01:29:47,790 --> 01:29:44,890 in other words once it's achieved 1958 01:29:50,130 --> 01:29:47,800 sovereignty in its own space-time field 1959 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:50,140 and it's disconnected from the 1960 01:29:54,540 --> 01:29:51,730 surrounding space-time so it's got a 1961 01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:54,550 like bubble around it so to speak now 1962 01:29:59,190 --> 01:29:56,290 the question is how does that object 1963 01:30:02,520 --> 01:29:59,200 move well in order for the object to 1964 01:30:04,470 --> 01:30:02,530 move it has to create a torsion effect 1965 01:30:07,020 --> 01:30:04,480 on the surrounding space-time which 1966 01:30:08,730 --> 01:30:07,030 means that the field of light or the 1967 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:08,740 field of space-time at the edge of the 1968 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:11,170 bubble the event horizon so to speak has 1969 01:30:15,630 --> 01:30:12,850 to communicate to the surrounding 1970 01:30:17,190 --> 01:30:15,640 space-time what's going on in that 1971 01:30:20,730 --> 01:30:17,200 bubble and how it's moving and spinning 1972 01:30:22,860 --> 01:30:20,740 now there's ways to move that field in 1973 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:22,870 such a way that it propels you or just 1974 01:30:28,740 --> 01:30:25,690 makes you move and travel in a certain 1975 01:30:32,610 --> 01:30:28,750 direction but there's other ways where 1976 01:30:35,370 --> 01:30:32,620 that entire field can literally match 1977 01:30:38,430 --> 01:30:35,380 the field of space-time in a very very 1978 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:38,440 distant location and one thing that 1979 01:30:42,330 --> 01:30:39,970 they've showed me a long time ago is 1980 01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:42,340 that you know if you're trying to jump a 1981 01:30:49,110 --> 01:30:45,550 spacecraft across the galaxy it's pretty 1982 01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:49,120 difficult to just use information of the 1983 01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:51,040 Stars in that general region of the 1984 01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:53,170 galaxy because from your standpoint 1985 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:55,570 those stars might be you know five 1986 01:30:59,850 --> 01:30:57,130 thousand light-years away or ten 1987 01:31:02,760 --> 01:30:59,860 thousand light-years away so the the 1988 01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:02,770 actual spectral frequencies of the stars 1989 01:31:07,770 --> 01:31:05,290 that you're reading are the way that 1990 01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:07,780 they were vibrating five thousand years 1991 01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:09,730 ago four thousand years ago right and 1992 01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:12,310 stars get older right so stars evolve 1993 01:31:18,380 --> 01:31:15,040 and they burn up parts of their elements 1994 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:18,390 and they have a very specific spectral 1995 01:31:23,370 --> 01:31:21,250 frequency that we can measure the 1996 01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:23,380 spectral analysis of stars is for 1997 01:31:28,830 --> 01:31:25,150 anybody who wants to look this up and 1998 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:28,840 and yet that's gonna change over time so 1999 01:31:34,170 --> 01:31:30,850 what you need is some kind of beacon 2000 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:34,180 system of stars that don't change as 2001 01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:36,970 drastically within these sort of large 2002 01:31:41,460 --> 01:31:39,310 time frames and it turns out we have a 2003 01:31:44,190 --> 01:31:41,470 beacon system just like that and they're 2004 01:31:48,330 --> 01:31:44,200 called pulsars pulsars have this 2005 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:48,340 incredibly clean measurable energetic 2006 01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:50,770 frequency change over extremely long 2007 01:31:54,570 --> 01:31:52,480 periods of time we're talking thousands 2008 01:31:55,609 --> 01:31:54,580 of years so they can be thousands of 2009 01:31:58,639 --> 01:31:55,619 light-years of 2010 01:32:00,259 --> 01:31:58,649 and yet you know you see a pulsar that's 2011 01:32:02,060 --> 01:32:00,269 a thousand light years away you measure 2012 01:32:04,009 --> 01:32:02,070 its pulse for a very short amount of 2013 01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:04,019 time and you have an extremely 2014 01:32:10,459 --> 01:32:07,679 predictable level of frequency change 2015 01:32:12,679 --> 01:32:10,469 and vibration and even its movement over 2016 01:32:15,889 --> 01:32:12,689 a certain period of time can all be 2017 01:32:18,199 --> 01:32:15,899 predicted fairly easily and now you've 2018 01:32:21,199 --> 01:32:18,209 got a beacon point that can be one of 2019 01:32:23,750 --> 01:32:21,209 three points that you're triangulating a 2020 01:32:25,909 --> 01:32:23,760 new position between and that new 2021 01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:25,919 position is basically an area of 2022 01:32:31,250 --> 01:32:29,280 space-time which has a specific sort of 2023 01:32:34,850 --> 01:32:31,260 combination of vibrational frequencies 2024 01:32:36,770 --> 01:32:34,860 that are local to that area and what's 2025 01:32:39,169 --> 01:32:36,780 happening in the craft is the craft is 2026 01:32:41,419 --> 01:32:39,179 telling the surrounding space-time where 2027 01:32:44,089 --> 01:32:41,429 the craft is now located instead of the 2028 01:32:46,129 --> 01:32:44,099 other way around so instead of like I'm 2029 01:32:48,469 --> 01:32:46,139 looking outside of me and I know I'm 2030 01:32:50,839 --> 01:32:48,479 sitting in a chair in my office and 2031 01:32:53,299 --> 01:32:50,849 there's my library over here and I know 2032 01:32:55,009 --> 01:32:53,309 where I'm at because I'm receiving light 2033 01:32:57,259 --> 01:32:55,019 bouncing off of all these objects 2034 01:32:59,779 --> 01:32:57,269 telling me where I am it goes the 2035 01:33:02,029 --> 01:32:59,789 opposite way where the object of this 2036 01:33:05,629 --> 01:33:02,039 craft is actually telling space-time ah 2037 01:33:09,290 --> 01:33:05,639 this is what my surrounding frequency 2038 01:33:11,389 --> 01:33:09,300 field is and space-time doesn't know any 2039 01:33:13,609 --> 01:33:11,399 different it's the same thing as if in 2040 01:33:16,699 --> 01:33:13,619 your mind you close your eyes and you 2041 01:33:19,219 --> 01:33:16,709 imagine you go outside or you imagine 2042 01:33:21,619 --> 01:33:19,229 you go in the backyard or you imagine 2043 01:33:23,929 --> 01:33:21,629 you fly up above your house when you get 2044 01:33:27,049 --> 01:33:23,939 really good at this you realize that 2045 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:27,059 you're capable of seeing these locations 2046 01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:29,610 in these areas exactly like they are 2047 01:33:34,879 --> 01:33:31,530 whether or not you've ever floated above 2048 01:33:36,770 --> 01:33:34,889 your house and it turns out that after a 2049 01:33:38,869 --> 01:33:36,780 little bit of practice you can actually 2050 01:33:40,489 --> 01:33:38,879 get information so you can go float 2051 01:33:42,229 --> 01:33:40,499 above your house and you can look down 2052 01:33:43,909 --> 01:33:42,239 the road and you can see a car that's 2053 01:33:46,069 --> 01:33:43,919 sitting there that's not usually sitting 2054 01:33:49,159 --> 01:33:46,079 on your road and you can come back down 2055 01:33:51,529 --> 01:33:49,169 get in your body go outside and look and 2056 01:33:54,169 --> 01:33:51,539 sure enough there's that car and this is 2057 01:33:56,389 --> 01:33:54,179 called remote viewing but this is a 2058 01:34:00,229 --> 01:33:56,399 practical application of the ability of 2059 01:34:02,629 --> 01:34:00,239 consciousness to perceive space-time 2060 01:34:05,409 --> 01:34:02,639 from whichever position it wants to 2061 01:34:08,390 --> 01:34:05,419 relatively and applying that technology 2062 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:08,400 to superluminal spacecraft or 2063 01:34:11,689 --> 01:34:10,290 craft that's able to move faster than 2064 01:34:13,820 --> 01:34:11,699 light in other words that's able to 2065 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:13,830 separate itself from the surrounding 2066 01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:16,890 space-time it's time enough to be able 2067 01:34:22,490 --> 01:34:20,370 to move without accelerating is critical 2068 01:34:25,340 --> 01:34:22,500 to being able to jump across the galaxy 2069 01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:25,350 and relocate yourself to another star 2070 01:34:29,930 --> 01:34:27,570 system or another planetary system and 2071 01:34:32,750 --> 01:34:29,940 it all actually becomes very practical 2072 01:34:34,820 --> 01:34:32,760 when you start realizing it's literally 2073 01:34:36,770 --> 01:34:34,830 just communicating with the frequencies 2074 01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:36,780 of light that are embedded in the local 2075 01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:39,480 space-time of any region so what would 2076 01:34:45,410 --> 01:34:43,770 this speed are you travelling at the I'm 2077 01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:45,420 wondering if most feel is their outward 2078 01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:48,480 well exactly are you travelling at the 2079 01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:51,360 speed of gravity yeah it's just the 2080 01:34:56,689 --> 01:34:53,250 speed of now I mean literally right 2081 01:34:59,630 --> 01:34:56,699 you're you're the object is you know at 2082 01:35:02,240 --> 01:34:59,640 one moment it is in this local area or 2083 01:35:04,370 --> 01:35:02,250 region of space-time and then when it 2084 01:35:06,500 --> 01:35:04,380 changes its field around it to 2085 01:35:08,959 --> 01:35:06,510 communicate to space-time that it's now 2086 01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:08,969 in this new location it's now in that 2087 01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:10,890 new location like literally it's just 2088 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:14,130 there it's just it's displaced itself 2089 01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:15,690 from its current position in the 2090 01:35:21,020 --> 01:35:18,480 space-time fabric and it's now locally 2091 01:35:23,750 --> 01:35:21,030 you know located near other spacetime 2092 01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:23,760 now that doesn't mean it can't move like 2093 01:35:28,220 --> 01:35:26,010 I said it you can pulse the light field 2094 01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:28,230 in such a way that allows you to travel 2095 01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:31,170 you know with angular momentum and speed 2096 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:33,480 but it doesn't you you're you're 2097 01:35:38,060 --> 01:35:36,210 separated from the space-time field so 2098 01:35:39,770 --> 01:35:38,070 of course you can make a 90-degree turn 2099 01:35:42,110 --> 01:35:39,780 it doesn't matter there's no g-force 2100 01:35:44,330 --> 01:35:42,120 when you do that you just literally just 2101 01:35:45,740 --> 01:35:44,340 start going that way and on the inside 2102 01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:45,750 of the craft nobody feels anything 2103 01:35:49,580 --> 01:35:47,850 because you're just it's just moving 2104 01:35:50,060 --> 01:35:49,590 around as easily as you move with your 2105 01:35:56,169 --> 01:35:50,070 mind 2106 01:35:59,149 --> 01:35:56,179 now I understand how that would apply to 2107 01:36:03,530 --> 01:35:59,159 space but what does that do once you're 2108 01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:03,540 inside of atmosphere yeah so 2109 01:36:07,669 --> 01:36:05,250 atmospherics it gets a little bit 2110 01:36:10,700 --> 01:36:07,679 interesting right so if you have a craft 2111 01:36:13,100 --> 01:36:10,710 like this and it's it's literally you 2112 01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:13,110 know blurring the space-time continuum 2113 01:36:19,310 --> 01:36:15,840 around it creating this kind of isolated 2114 01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:19,320 envelope you're you're not going to be 2115 01:36:23,690 --> 01:36:22,080 interacting without mysterio all four 2116 01:36:25,070 --> 01:36:23,700 because you're literally in separate 2117 01:36:28,850 --> 01:36:25,080 space-time as if you're in a higher 2118 01:36:31,850 --> 01:36:28,860 dimension but as soon as you turn off or 2119 01:36:34,340 --> 01:36:31,860 you break down that layer in which you 2120 01:36:37,220 --> 01:36:34,350 have to do in order to interact with the 2121 01:36:39,650 --> 01:36:37,230 atmosphere or with a planet or say land 2122 01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:39,660 or say do something like make a crop 2123 01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:41,970 circle or whatever you've got an open 2124 01:36:46,910 --> 01:36:44,490 part of that field and when you open 2125 01:36:49,070 --> 01:36:46,920 part of that field you're gonna have an 2126 01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:49,080 atmospheric burnup happen in other words 2127 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:51,810 there's often gonna be a like light show 2128 01:36:56,300 --> 01:36:53,730 up around the ship it's gonna be like 2129 01:36:59,060 --> 01:36:56,310 you know the Aurora's electromagnetic 2130 01:37:00,620 --> 01:36:59,070 field is gonna light up and this is what 2131 01:37:02,930 --> 01:37:00,630 people see a lot of times when a ship 2132 01:37:04,910 --> 01:37:02,940 comes in and it burns up real bright 2133 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:04,920 it's because they're they're literally 2134 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:07,770 releasing that that space-time field so 2135 01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:09,810 that their craft becomes visible and it 2136 01:37:13,820 --> 01:37:11,730 becomes fully present it's not cloaked 2137 01:37:15,970 --> 01:37:13,830 it's right there and then they can turn 2138 01:37:18,830 --> 01:37:15,980 it back on and shoot off if they want to 2139 01:37:20,990 --> 01:37:18,840 and farmers often see this kind of stuff 2140 01:37:22,970 --> 01:37:21,000 over their fields they see these little 2141 01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:22,980 blips of light come down and then they 2142 01:37:26,750 --> 01:37:25,440 see these like bright flashes and the 2143 01:37:28,370 --> 01:37:26,760 next thing they know there's like a 2144 01:37:31,930 --> 01:37:28,380 giant crop circle that's out in the 2145 01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:31,940 field and so there is a limitation to 2146 01:37:36,980 --> 01:37:34,530 how much you can interact with 2147 01:37:39,020 --> 01:37:36,990 space-time once you're inside of this 2148 01:37:40,970 --> 01:37:39,030 gravitational envelope so you got to 2149 01:37:43,190 --> 01:37:40,980 turn it off to some extent which is 2150 01:37:46,090 --> 01:37:43,200 gonna have an effect and I think some 2151 01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:46,100 ships you know in my experience have 2152 01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:49,110 different other ways to modulate gravity 2153 01:37:53,810 --> 01:37:51,210 so when they fully turn off that field 2154 01:37:55,940 --> 01:37:53,820 if they want to hover they're gonna use 2155 01:37:59,470 --> 01:37:55,950 things like sonic amplifiers and they're 2156 01:38:03,050 --> 01:37:59,480 gonna just literally vibrate the the 2157 01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:03,060 atmospheric field underneath the craft 2158 01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:05,130 in such a way that you know it literally 2159 01:38:09,230 --> 01:38:07,410 is able to just hover through this 2160 01:38:10,910 --> 01:38:09,240 massive kind of sonic pressure that 2161 01:38:13,700 --> 01:38:10,920 they're building up with the atmospheric 2162 01:38:16,340 --> 01:38:13,710 field which then that kind of thing you 2163 01:38:18,230 --> 01:38:16,350 know when you look at it in terms of its 2164 01:38:19,580 --> 01:38:18,240 physics explains why a lot of people 2165 01:38:22,670 --> 01:38:19,590 they see a craft come down and then 2166 01:38:25,940 --> 01:38:22,680 there's this like you know this like 2167 01:38:27,980 --> 01:38:25,950 pulsing sonic field while the craft is 2168 01:38:30,290 --> 01:38:27,990 right around their house you know or 2169 01:38:33,410 --> 01:38:30,300 whatever is it visible though is it 2170 01:38:34,810 --> 01:38:33,420 visible and it does this answer some of 2171 01:38:36,940 --> 01:38:34,820 the interdimensional 2172 01:38:39,310 --> 01:38:36,950 aspects of this certainly with craft 2173 01:38:42,430 --> 01:38:39,320 that I have seen that have just appeared 2174 01:38:44,860 --> 01:38:42,440 and then disappeared yeah right it's 2175 01:38:46,780 --> 01:38:44,870 just exactly it's just they either they 2176 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:46,790 win that when you've got that that 2177 01:38:50,830 --> 01:38:49,370 separation field on that's separating 2178 01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:50,840 them from their surrounding space-time 2179 01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:53,450 it's just as easy to be invisible as it 2180 01:39:00,010 --> 01:38:56,000 is visible so like they can literally 2181 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:00,020 just not be there and then be there okay 2182 01:39:05,140 --> 01:39:02,690 and and it's just literally a matter of 2183 01:39:07,060 --> 01:39:05,150 them setting that boundary and the 2184 01:39:09,130 --> 01:39:07,070 conditions of that boundary between them 2185 01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:09,140 and the surrounding space-time they can 2186 01:39:17,290 --> 01:39:15,770 show light or not whoo-hoo in various 2187 01:39:20,700 --> 01:39:17,300 governments around the world and state 2188 01:39:23,740 --> 01:39:20,710 actors understand this or do they 2189 01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:23,750 completely not understand it well I 2190 01:39:29,500 --> 01:39:27,110 think that I think that in general what 2191 01:39:31,180 --> 01:39:29,510 I've gotten from studying the disclosure 2192 01:39:33,250 --> 01:39:31,190 movement and I've I've met some very 2193 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:33,260 interesting cats in my time I had an ex 2194 01:39:38,830 --> 01:39:35,930 black ops friend of mine show up at a 2195 01:39:40,780 --> 01:39:38,840 you know sitrans party in Asheville 2196 01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:40,790 North Carolina when I was in college and 2197 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:43,490 we became close friends and he used to 2198 01:39:48,250 --> 01:39:45,170 do psychic warfare training for the 2199 01:39:49,990 --> 01:39:48,260 military and I you know I wasn't sure he 2200 01:39:51,670 --> 01:39:50,000 was being honest until he took me to 2201 01:39:54,100 --> 01:39:51,680 dinner and we were at this guy the you 2202 01:39:57,220 --> 01:39:54,110 know this old guy's house who was you 2203 01:39:59,050 --> 01:39:57,230 know basically ex-fbi it's really high 2204 01:40:00,640 --> 01:39:59,060 up in the FBI and he had photos of 2205 01:40:03,010 --> 01:40:00,650 himself with presidents and stuff and I 2206 01:40:06,340 --> 01:40:03,020 was like oh okay this guy actually is 2207 01:40:08,620 --> 01:40:06,350 who he says he is but what I've really 2208 01:40:12,270 --> 01:40:08,630 gotten is that you know it's a mixed bag 2209 01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:12,280 because one of compartmentalization to 2210 01:40:17,740 --> 01:40:14,810 it people that have been studying these 2211 01:40:20,020 --> 01:40:17,750 kinds of technologies you know generally 2212 01:40:21,610 --> 01:40:20,030 it's just the technologies they've been 2213 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:21,620 exposed to and they've been allowed to 2214 01:40:26,950 --> 01:40:24,290 study and allowed to understand which 2215 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:26,960 then theories develop and physics 2216 01:40:31,060 --> 01:40:28,370 develop around the study of those 2217 01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:31,070 specific technologies but you know when 2218 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:32,930 you're dealing with something like a 2219 01:40:37,120 --> 01:40:34,850 ship that crashes on earth which is a 2220 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:37,130 lot of the ships that I think we've 2221 01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:39,770 recovered are all Zeta Reticuli based 2222 01:40:46,060 --> 01:40:42,530 technology or species that's generally 2223 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:46,070 referred to as the greys and their level 2224 01:40:50,210 --> 01:40:47,850 of technology is just 2225 01:40:52,310 --> 01:40:50,220 lower than that of what I call the 2226 01:40:55,250 --> 01:40:52,320 Galactic Council which is a group of 2227 01:40:57,620 --> 01:40:55,260 species who are completely open-source 2228 01:40:59,480 --> 01:40:57,630 they trade all their tech with each 2229 01:41:02,210 --> 01:40:59,490 other to answer an earlier question that 2230 01:41:03,980 --> 01:41:02,220 you had and and and this is one of the 2231 01:41:07,460 --> 01:41:03,990 reasons why they have this incredibly 2232 01:41:09,590 --> 01:41:07,470 peaceful community across the galaxy is 2233 01:41:12,260 --> 01:41:09,600 that they all are at the super high 2234 01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:12,270 level of Technology very high level of 2235 01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:14,610 spirituality and honoring and ethics in 2236 01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:17,280 terms of life and consciousness and 2237 01:41:23,330 --> 01:41:20,850 creation and they look at it as you know 2238 01:41:24,950 --> 01:41:23,340 if you don't just give away everything 2239 01:41:26,870 --> 01:41:24,960 that you learn and figure out then what 2240 01:41:29,210 --> 01:41:26,880 happens is people start trying to fight 2241 01:41:31,340 --> 01:41:29,220 over information or fight over knowledge 2242 01:41:33,950 --> 01:41:31,350 or fight over technology but when you 2243 01:41:36,620 --> 01:41:33,960 share all your breakthroughs everybody 2244 01:41:39,770 --> 01:41:36,630 benefits all the time and it's it's just 2245 01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:39,780 amazing how fast everything evolves and 2246 01:41:45,530 --> 01:41:42,530 you know there's just more and more 2247 01:41:48,650 --> 01:41:45,540 community that builds and forms itself 2248 01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:48,660 in that way so I think when when our 2249 01:41:54,470 --> 01:41:51,600 government and other governments have 2250 01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:54,480 witnessed technology of the kinds that 2251 01:41:59,510 --> 01:41:56,580 I'm talking about from this galactic 2252 01:42:01,520 --> 01:41:59,520 council community they don't know what 2253 01:42:03,110 --> 01:42:01,530 to think I mean that I think that kind 2254 01:42:07,700 --> 01:42:03,120 of stuff scares the [\h__\h] out of them 2255 01:42:10,220 --> 01:42:07,710 because it's so far beyond anything that 2256 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:10,230 even they might know about in terms of 2257 01:42:15,290 --> 01:42:13,050 their study of these crafts you know 2258 01:42:18,980 --> 01:42:15,300 scratched spacecraft 2259 01:42:21,500 --> 01:42:18,990 if something like a weapons system like 2260 01:42:23,810 --> 01:42:21,510 to shoot down a ship like this is just 2261 01:42:25,340 --> 01:42:23,820 literally impossible because you're 2262 01:42:27,980 --> 01:42:25,350 literally dealing with a force field 2263 01:42:31,010 --> 01:42:27,990 that's made of space-time itself it's 2264 01:42:33,770 --> 01:42:31,020 like they're they're so far beyond the 2265 01:42:36,290 --> 01:42:33,780 state of warring and partially because 2266 01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:36,300 of this kind of technology like you 2267 01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:38,250 can't have a war if there's no way to 2268 01:42:45,380 --> 01:42:41,360 get to the space-time of your enemy 2269 01:42:47,570 --> 01:42:45,390 right and so like the the ideas of 2270 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:47,580 battling over resources and stuff like 2271 01:42:52,370 --> 01:42:49,530 that just becomes completely ridiculous 2272 01:42:54,950 --> 01:42:52,380 at this point because you can generate 2273 01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:54,960 whatever forms of matter you want from 2274 01:42:59,900 --> 01:42:56,730 space-time itself in other words 2275 01:43:01,910 --> 01:42:59,910 space-time is programmable and 2276 01:43:04,670 --> 01:43:01,920 and and these kinds of things are a huge 2277 01:43:07,850 --> 01:43:04,680 leap for the consciousness of a species 2278 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:07,860 that in general is still pretty well 2279 01:43:13,130 --> 01:43:10,650 caught up in scarcity mentality and the 2280 01:43:16,340 --> 01:43:13,140 idea that you know if others have more 2281 01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:16,350 than them then they're in danger that 2282 01:43:20,510 --> 01:43:18,090 you always have to be the biggest dog in 2283 01:43:22,850 --> 01:43:20,520 town you know like all these kinds of 2284 01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:22,860 things these are just you know it's just 2285 01:43:29,810 --> 01:43:27,840 our adolescence phase so to speak let me 2286 01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:29,820 jump in well let me jump in really quick 2287 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:31,650 and also we're gonna be heading towards 2288 01:43:36,410 --> 01:43:34,770 a break and obviously we're not in any 2289 01:43:37,460 --> 01:43:36,420 position to end this conversation 2290 01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:37,470 tonight 2291 01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:41,280 so we're I invite you to stay with us 2292 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:46,320 and we'll do some overtime but with not 2293 01:43:51,170 --> 01:43:48,930 to dive into the Fermi paradox but what 2294 01:43:52,730 --> 01:43:51,180 the Fermi paradox represents and you 2295 01:43:57,620 --> 01:43:52,740 brought up the Drake Equation earlier 2296 01:44:00,320 --> 01:43:57,630 and other astronomers around the world 2297 01:44:03,650 --> 01:44:00,330 and and cosmologists will say this this 2298 01:44:06,920 --> 01:44:03,660 sounds fine the numbers suggest all of 2299 01:44:09,890 --> 01:44:06,930 this intelligent life but we can't see 2300 01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:09,900 it we're looking we would see the 2301 01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:12,210 interstellar trading we would see the 2302 01:44:19,820 --> 01:44:16,310 Galactic freighters we would see these 2303 01:44:22,910 --> 01:44:19,830 these types of craft moving around and 2304 01:44:27,170 --> 01:44:22,920 we don't how do we explain that part of 2305 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:27,180 it or is the bubble construct that 2306 01:44:31,570 --> 01:44:29,730 you're describing here take care of all 2307 01:44:35,350 --> 01:44:31,580 of that where we wouldn't see 2308 01:44:38,060 --> 01:44:35,360 necessarily physical interstellar travel 2309 01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:38,070 yeah well I'd say it's it's somewhat 2310 01:44:43,820 --> 01:44:40,530 hubris to think that we would just see 2311 01:44:46,790 --> 01:44:43,830 all of it because you know it's 2312 01:44:48,290 --> 01:44:46,800 interesting but I mean we're how many 2313 01:44:50,930 --> 01:44:48,300 years has it been that we've even 2314 01:44:54,620 --> 01:44:50,940 recognized that there's planets around 2315 01:44:58,370 --> 01:44:54,630 other stars right live weird right five 2316 01:45:02,960 --> 01:44:58,380 years right finally like oh there are 2317 01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:02,970 planets around other stars oh gosh I 2318 01:45:06,110 --> 01:45:04,410 can't believe we didn't realize that all 2319 01:45:08,180 --> 01:45:06,120 this time so you're talking about a 2320 01:45:10,670 --> 01:45:08,190 planet and then you're trying to compare 2321 01:45:12,919 --> 01:45:10,680 that to a freighter ship and let's say 2322 01:45:16,489 --> 01:45:12,929 the freighter ship is the size of new 2323 01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:16,499 city so now you're trying to say oh can 2324 01:45:21,620 --> 01:45:18,449 you see something the size of New York 2325 01:45:23,569 --> 01:45:21,630 City you know or smaller you know 2326 01:45:29,209 --> 01:45:23,579 floating around in that solar system 2327 01:45:31,009 --> 01:45:29,219 over there yeah not likely and also not 2328 01:45:33,229 --> 01:45:31,019 to mention that when it decides to move 2329 01:45:34,609 --> 01:45:33,239 to another solar system or decides to 2330 01:45:37,279 --> 01:45:34,619 travel across the galaxy 2331 01:45:39,890 --> 01:45:37,289 it's just jumping straight there it's 2332 01:45:41,929 --> 01:45:39,900 like it's not it's not like traveling 2333 01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:41,939 across the whole distance you know and 2334 01:45:46,069 --> 01:45:43,920 like did today here's a little satellite 2335 01:45:49,129 --> 01:45:46,079 moving across the sky right it's just 2336 01:45:52,339 --> 01:45:49,139 there you know and so a lot of these 2337 01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:52,349 things are of course going on and we do 2338 01:45:57,830 --> 01:45:55,199 see very interesting stuff all the time 2339 01:46:00,259 --> 01:45:57,840 I mean there's there some pretty 2340 01:46:02,929 --> 01:46:00,269 interesting studies of our looking at 2341 01:46:05,410 --> 01:46:02,939 the Sun and seeing very very large 2342 01:46:08,419 --> 01:46:05,420 objects in some of the Solar Observatory 2343 01:46:10,699 --> 01:46:08,429 fields of objects kind of hovering right 2344 01:46:13,370 --> 01:46:10,709 next to the Sun and absorbing a bunch of 2345 01:46:15,020 --> 01:46:13,380 you know what looks like absorbing 2346 01:46:16,850 --> 01:46:15,030 electromagnetic energy out of the Sun 2347 01:46:18,919 --> 01:46:16,860 into like a big sphere and then the 2348 01:46:21,949 --> 01:46:18,929 thing disappears what the heck is that 2349 01:46:24,649 --> 01:46:21,959 you know and we we have you know lots of 2350 01:46:26,449 --> 01:46:24,659 testimonies about either bases on the 2351 01:46:30,199 --> 01:46:26,459 backside of the moon of people seeing 2352 01:46:32,959 --> 01:46:30,209 spacecraft it's it's a pretty simple 2353 01:46:35,029 --> 01:46:32,969 matter that you know the fact that most 2354 01:46:37,429 --> 01:46:35,039 people there's a lot of people that 2355 01:46:39,500 --> 01:46:37,439 haven't even seen shooting stars you 2356 01:46:41,779 --> 01:46:39,510 know a lot of people have never had a 2357 01:46:45,020 --> 01:46:41,789 direct experience of a starship or seen 2358 01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:45,030 anything in the sky there's there's a 2359 01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:47,610 lot of reasons and not to mention the 2360 01:46:53,029 --> 01:46:50,130 belief systems of most people that are 2361 01:46:55,609 --> 01:46:53,039 simply resistant to the idea of seeing 2362 01:46:57,859 --> 01:46:55,619 this kind of inter you know 2363 01:47:00,350 --> 01:46:57,869 interplanetary interstellar network 2364 01:47:02,449 --> 01:47:00,360 not to mention galactic scale Network 2365 01:47:05,419 --> 01:47:02,459 not to mention potentially intergalactic 2366 01:47:07,969 --> 01:47:05,429 Network and we also are lacking some 2367 01:47:10,819 --> 01:47:07,979 basic observational technologies as well 2368 01:47:15,410 --> 01:47:10,829 to be able to detect them as scale yeah 2369 01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:15,420 thank you operating had a much slower or 2370 01:47:22,850 --> 01:47:20,489 much faster rate their life where we 2371 01:47:24,740 --> 01:47:22,860 simply just can't see it it's just 2372 01:47:28,010 --> 01:47:24,750 simply out of 2373 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:28,020 out of range of our current tech and 2374 01:47:33,740 --> 01:47:31,010 it's completely not observable I 2375 01:47:37,670 --> 01:47:33,750 wouldn't take it that far but but just 2376 01:47:40,130 --> 01:47:37,680 the ability to surround your craft with 2377 01:47:42,050 --> 01:47:40,140 an envelope that isolates it from the 2378 01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:42,060 surroundings space time and travel 2379 01:47:48,500 --> 01:47:44,730 faster than light like that already is 2380 01:47:50,810 --> 01:47:48,510 such a leap ahead that you know our 2381 01:47:52,970 --> 01:47:50,820 ability to observe something and and 2382 01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:52,980 even know what kind of cloaking is 2383 01:47:57,470 --> 01:47:55,440 possible or not is you know extremely 2384 01:48:00,260 --> 01:47:57,480 limited let's take our break right here 2385 01:48:02,270 --> 01:48:00,270 our guest tonight Adam Apollo fantastic 2386 01:48:04,670 --> 01:48:02,280 conversation Adam stay right there 2387 01:48:06,830 --> 01:48:04,680 this is fade to black I'm their host JB 2388 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:06,840 Church doing some overtime with mr. 2389 01:48:12,170 --> 01:48:08,610 Apollo when we come back you can follow 2390 01:48:13,700 --> 01:48:12,180 adam on twitter at adam apollo the links 2391 01:48:15,290 --> 01:48:13,710 are right there in the conversations 2392 01:48:17,300 --> 01:48:15,300 tonight and of course you can follow me 2393 01:48:18,230 --> 01:48:17,310 at a church radio we'll be right back 2394 01:48:20,030 --> 01:48:18,240 after this short break 2395 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:20,040 stay with us 2396 01:48:41,340 --> 01:48:38,650 [Music] 2397 01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:41,350 look who just popped up in the fade to 2398 01:48:50,060 --> 01:48:45,850 black Chad Adam Apollo Adam you have no 2399 01:48:55,710 --> 01:48:52,770 yeah it's great man it's great we do 2400 01:48:57,210 --> 01:48:55,720 thousands of tweets and every single 2401 01:49:00,150 --> 01:48:57,220 night it's just out of control 2402 01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:00,160 so hashtag f2b is what you want to do 2403 01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:03,970 and and that that spreads out these guys 2404 01:49:08,850 --> 01:49:06,210 are fun and I'll just say I rarely 2405 01:49:11,130 --> 01:49:08,860 actually use Twitter so it's not the 2406 01:49:12,980 --> 01:49:11,140 best way to find me or keep in touch but 2407 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:12,990 I'll use it a little bit more I think my 2408 01:49:17,430 --> 01:49:15,250 Instagram got disconnected from my 2409 01:49:18,840 --> 01:49:17,440 Twitter but it used to post kind of 2410 01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:18,850 regularly through that but you can 2411 01:49:23,370 --> 01:49:20,890 easily find me there on Instagram 2412 01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:23,380 Adam underscore Apollo or just go to add 2413 01:49:27,150 --> 01:49:25,090 of Apollo comm and there's lots of ways 2414 01:49:32,930 --> 01:49:27,160 to to see my work and see what I'm doing 2415 01:49:39,690 --> 01:49:36,960 some day all right let's head into some 2416 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:39,700 overtime and I actually and I know that 2417 01:49:45,810 --> 01:49:42,490 everybody is curious we we went we 2418 01:49:48,830 --> 01:49:45,820 danced and moved right past by the way 2419 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:48,840 Ruben Ruben Langdon one of my heroes 2420 01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:52,090 just an extraordinary now not only as a 2421 01:49:56,700 --> 01:49:54,490 person and an actor and a martial artist 2422 01:49:58,740 --> 01:49:56,710 and all of the gaming stuff that he has 2423 01:50:01,550 --> 01:49:58,750 that it's just an incredible career but 2424 01:50:05,550 --> 01:50:01,560 he's a really really good filmmaker and 2425 01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:05,560 I'm glad that he is he's grounded into 2426 01:50:11,220 --> 01:50:08,800 some bliss right now and is heading down 2427 01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:11,230 this road and it's just really cool that 2428 01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:14,050 you're working with them but let's let's 2429 01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:16,030 get back to what we danced past which 2430 01:50:25,490 --> 01:50:19,870 was your encounter a physical encounter 2431 01:50:28,410 --> 01:50:25,500 in the desert with with et what happened 2432 01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:28,420 well like I said it's a long story 2433 01:50:34,410 --> 01:50:30,190 and if you want the full story you'll 2434 01:50:38,370 --> 01:50:34,420 have to watch the episode with Ruben but 2435 01:50:40,770 --> 01:50:38,380 I will say here just to kind of make it 2436 01:50:43,710 --> 01:50:40,780 simple I'd love to just describe to you 2437 01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:43,720 my interaction with this being who 2438 01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:47,110 showed up out of the blue in a moment 2439 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:51,010 when I had just gone through a whole 2440 01:50:56,250 --> 01:50:52,210 series of really power 2441 01:50:59,370 --> 01:50:56,260 full healing experiences and come into a 2442 01:51:02,970 --> 01:50:59,380 little deeper sense of myself and who I 2443 01:51:08,190 --> 01:51:02,980 am and why I'm here and the purpose of 2444 01:51:11,729 --> 01:51:08,200 my life as any you know any deep journey 2445 01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:11,739 can be when when we go through a series 2446 01:51:18,660 --> 01:51:14,290 of transformations and we come out the 2447 01:51:23,250 --> 01:51:18,670 other side and we finally you know in 2448 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:23,260 this sort of deeply awakened state start 2449 01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:25,930 to realize what it is that we're doing 2450 01:51:29,850 --> 01:51:29,110 here in the universe and I mean sober I 2451 01:51:32,580 --> 01:51:29,860 mean 2452 01:51:35,729 --> 01:51:32,590 spiritually aware of what we're doing 2453 01:51:37,830 --> 01:51:35,739 here in the universe there's there's 2454 01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:37,840 breakthroughs that can happen and things 2455 01:51:45,660 --> 01:51:41,050 that can happen and I was just in a 2456 01:51:47,580 --> 01:51:45,670 point of realizing literally that like 2457 01:51:49,620 --> 01:51:47,590 literally in the moments right before 2458 01:51:51,930 --> 01:51:49,630 she showed up there were two things one 2459 01:51:53,550 --> 01:51:51,940 is that I realized that there's people 2460 01:51:56,700 --> 01:51:53,560 all over the world that would be 2461 01:51:59,310 --> 01:51:56,710 absolutely interested in making contact 2462 01:52:01,560 --> 01:51:59,320 if that was possible and that something 2463 01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,570 different something weird something out 2464 01:52:05,130 --> 01:52:03,520 of the ordinary something more like the 2465 01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:05,140 Star Trek movies they like or whatever 2466 01:52:09,290 --> 01:52:06,760 would be something that people would 2467 01:52:13,860 --> 01:52:09,300 actually be into right for one thing and 2468 01:52:17,070 --> 01:52:13,870 and I also realized that you know that 2469 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:17,080 as much as it's difficult for for us to 2470 01:52:22,590 --> 01:52:20,050 see kind of this next level of being and 2471 01:52:26,430 --> 01:52:22,600 what it might be like to travel the 2472 01:52:29,610 --> 01:52:26,440 Stars most people are really open to it 2473 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:29,620 and I don't know there's all kinds of 2474 01:52:33,990 --> 01:52:31,570 people in my life when I go out to the 2475 01:52:36,030 --> 01:52:34,000 store who are working at you know the 2476 01:52:39,390 --> 01:52:36,040 grocery store or working at the gas 2477 01:52:42,180 --> 01:52:39,400 station or here there and man they would 2478 01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:42,190 love nothing more than for ships to land 2479 01:52:46,650 --> 01:52:45,520 and for them to get on and go explore 2480 01:52:48,150 --> 01:52:46,660 other planets I mean I don't know about 2481 01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:48,160 you but that sounds like a pretty fun 2482 01:52:52,590 --> 01:52:50,290 thing to leave your day job for right if 2483 01:52:57,060 --> 01:52:52,600 the food is if the food is good if the 2484 01:52:59,910 --> 01:52:57,070 food is good that is definitely a caveat 2485 01:53:03,120 --> 01:52:59,920 and and I will say that that on earth 2486 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:03,130 here we humans have certainly cultivated 2487 01:53:06,990 --> 01:53:04,570 our love of 2488 01:53:09,740 --> 01:53:07,000 exotic cuisine in such a fabulous way I 2489 01:53:13,410 --> 01:53:09,750 love food I'm a foodie of absolutely 2490 01:53:15,330 --> 01:53:13,420 well did you understand at the at this 2491 01:53:18,209 --> 01:53:15,340 moment did you understand what was 2492 01:53:20,879 --> 01:53:18,219 happening yeah well she was physically 2493 01:53:24,359 --> 01:53:20,889 standing there just looking at me and 2494 01:53:26,669 --> 01:53:24,369 she's in these robes that you know hung 2495 01:53:30,509 --> 01:53:26,679 down her body and there's these little 2496 01:53:32,370 --> 01:53:30,519 symbols on her robes all along from the 2497 01:53:33,899 --> 01:53:32,380 cowl going all the way down the front of 2498 01:53:35,759 --> 01:53:33,909 the robes that look like constellation 2499 01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:35,769 patterns and they're kind of glowing and 2500 01:53:41,970 --> 01:53:38,800 shimmering and she's just staring at me 2501 01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:41,980 and I I like I'm kind of squatting down 2502 01:53:48,629 --> 01:53:44,530 and I stand up and I walk over to her 2503 01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:48,639 and that's when I realized as I'm 2504 01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:51,190 getting closer that she is not human 2505 01:53:57,540 --> 01:53:55,210 because humans have you know every human 2506 01:54:00,060 --> 01:53:57,550 being I've ever met you know we all have 2507 01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:00,070 this one particular quality to our 2508 01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:04,030 skulls you know as a as a homo sapien 2509 01:54:09,149 --> 01:54:06,130 and even Homo erectus and you look at 2510 01:54:11,609 --> 01:54:09,159 all of us you know you've got you've got 2511 01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:11,619 these eyebrow bones and the eyebrows 2512 01:54:15,509 --> 01:54:13,599 come down to the sides and you'll have 2513 01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:15,519 this little you know bone point where 2514 01:54:21,660 --> 01:54:17,530 there's the edge of the eyebrow and it 2515 01:54:24,390 --> 01:54:21,670 kind of closes the eye cavity and goes 2516 01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:24,400 down and you know everybody's got it 2517 01:54:28,290 --> 01:54:26,170 everybody's got an end to their eyebrows 2518 01:54:31,740 --> 01:54:28,300 everybody's got a certain shape to their 2519 01:54:34,740 --> 01:54:31,750 eyebrow bone and that shape is pretty 2520 01:54:36,660 --> 01:54:34,750 much defined in our human species well 2521 01:54:37,890 --> 01:54:36,670 we recognize that from the time that 2522 01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:37,900 were a baby 2523 01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:39,610 you know looking at our mother's face 2524 01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:42,130 and that yeah it it is part of our DNA 2525 01:54:47,370 --> 01:54:45,670 to recognize another human being that's 2526 01:54:49,529 --> 01:54:47,380 right and it's and it's and it's you 2527 01:54:52,350 --> 01:54:49,539 know across even though we you put me 2528 01:54:55,979 --> 01:54:52,360 next to a Nigerian guy or Japanese guy 2529 01:54:58,290 --> 01:54:55,989 we are very different look but if you 2530 01:55:00,240 --> 01:54:58,300 look at our skulls you know and you look 2531 01:55:01,950 --> 01:55:00,250 at the shape of the bone structure and 2532 01:55:06,569 --> 01:55:01,960 our skulls we have these very very 2533 01:55:09,390 --> 01:55:06,579 similar qualities and and if you when I 2534 01:55:11,459 --> 01:55:09,400 looked at her she didn't have that end 2535 01:55:14,700 --> 01:55:11,469 point to the eyebrow bones her eyebrow 2536 01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:14,710 bones went back further out to where her 2537 01:55:20,900 --> 01:55:17,850 temples are and then there was an edge 2538 01:55:25,070 --> 01:55:20,910 hollow points so the hollow around her 2539 01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:25,080 eyes extended much further back and she 2540 01:55:30,790 --> 01:55:27,570 still had beautiful kind of human shaped 2541 01:55:34,430 --> 01:55:30,800 eyes not very big but just there and she 2542 01:55:36,710 --> 01:55:34,440 generally looked human but she also had 2543 01:55:39,170 --> 01:55:36,720 these little bone points coming off in 2544 01:55:41,990 --> 01:55:39,180 her forehead little bone points coming 2545 01:55:44,300 --> 01:55:42,000 off her cheeks and was very beautiful 2546 01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:44,310 her ears actually extended back to 2547 01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:47,130 points that's fake Abul of course but 2548 01:55:52,130 --> 01:55:49,770 this eyebrow bone thing there's just no 2549 01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:52,140 way you couldn't do it I mean even even 2550 01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:53,730 when you watch Star Trek and things like 2551 01:55:58,100 --> 01:55:55,290 that they have all this makeup and they 2552 01:56:00,140 --> 01:55:58,110 build up the faces in all these ways you 2553 01:56:02,450 --> 01:56:00,150 still got that spot in the eyebrows you 2554 01:56:04,700 --> 01:56:02,460 just can't lose that can't fake it and 2555 01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:04,710 and then that so that was my first like 2556 01:56:11,660 --> 01:56:09,450 whoa okay and then I get about as far 2557 01:56:13,730 --> 01:56:11,670 away from her as like if I reached out 2558 01:56:16,730 --> 01:56:13,740 my arm and she reached out her arm or 2559 01:56:19,010 --> 01:56:16,740 fingertips would touch and when I 2560 01:56:22,820 --> 01:56:19,020 reached that point of distance from her 2561 01:56:26,990 --> 01:56:22,830 all the sudden she was in my head and it 2562 01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:27,000 was like I put on VR goggles and headset 2563 01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:29,690 and everything and she spoken to my mind 2564 01:56:37,370 --> 01:56:33,570 with what I could best describe as like 2565 01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:37,380 a immersive holographic light language 2566 01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:42,410 that said to me I know who you are and 2567 01:56:53,960 --> 01:56:50,730 that expression was snapshots of flying 2568 01:56:56,420 --> 01:56:53,970 in on this massive star system starship 2569 01:56:59,060 --> 01:56:56,430 and docking my ship with it and then 2570 01:57:01,010 --> 01:56:59,070 being on this you know this room with 2571 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:01,020 these huge windows looking down at a 2572 01:57:05,630 --> 01:57:02,850 planet below and then being in this 2573 01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:05,640 massive room that's you know kind of 2574 01:57:09,590 --> 01:57:07,530 akin to the one in Star Wars where all 2575 01:57:12,730 --> 01:57:09,600 the different galactic beings meet this 2576 01:57:15,710 --> 01:57:12,740 kind of rounded council chamber to 2577 01:57:18,110 --> 01:57:15,720 basically flying down seeing earth to be 2578 01:57:20,840 --> 01:57:18,120 standing in these you know giant 2579 01:57:22,820 --> 01:57:20,850 standing stone circles on earth looking 2580 01:57:25,670 --> 01:57:22,830 up and I'm seeing a ship coming down and 2581 01:57:27,500 --> 01:57:25,680 it's beaming down on this altar to you 2582 01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:27,510 know just all of these moments and 2583 01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:29,310 flashes standing in the deserts of Egypt 2584 01:57:34,399 --> 01:57:31,110 and there's like a ship coming in 2585 01:57:36,919 --> 01:57:34,409 the storm blowing and there there are 2586 01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:36,929 these memories there moments of my 2587 01:57:41,890 --> 01:57:39,570 existence in which I had some connection 2588 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:41,900 with this being and she was literally 2589 01:57:46,490 --> 01:57:43,530 transmitting to me 2590 01:57:49,129 --> 01:57:46,500 a memory or memories of these moments of 2591 01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:49,139 connection that we had had and so there 2592 01:57:55,129 --> 01:57:51,570 was this instant feeling of deep 2593 01:57:57,590 --> 01:57:55,139 familiarity of deep recognition I also 2594 01:57:59,359 --> 01:57:57,600 saw the symbol that I would wear you 2595 01:58:01,490 --> 01:57:59,369 know on my coat when I was going into 2596 01:58:05,270 --> 01:58:01,500 these you know meetings as different 2597 01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:05,280 species and there was just all of all of 2598 01:58:11,450 --> 01:58:08,730 this sense of instant familiarity and I 2599 01:58:13,609 --> 01:58:11,460 just you know just like thank you you 2600 01:58:16,820 --> 01:58:13,619 know and it felt this massive deep 2601 01:58:18,979 --> 01:58:16,830 gratitude for this moment of recognition 2602 01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:18,989 it was the it was the most powerful 2603 01:58:25,129 --> 01:58:21,810 telepathy I've ever experienced now how 2604 01:58:28,129 --> 01:58:25,139 did you return the telepathy right 2605 01:58:31,370 --> 01:58:28,139 you're not learning in telepathy at this 2606 01:58:34,310 --> 01:58:31,380 point no and just all I did was think 2607 01:58:37,010 --> 01:58:34,320 thank you and feel the feelings I was 2608 01:58:40,189 --> 01:58:37,020 feeling and she she just could see it it 2609 01:58:43,729 --> 01:58:40,199 was like transparent as day you know 2610 01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:43,739 like the same way you know if you if you 2611 01:58:48,979 --> 01:58:46,530 tell you know your daughter or someone 2612 01:58:50,930 --> 01:58:48,989 in your family that you love them in a 2613 01:58:53,090 --> 01:58:50,940 really deeply authentic way and you 2614 01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:53,100 literally watch them light up you can 2615 01:58:58,070 --> 01:58:55,770 see how they receive it it's you know 2616 01:59:00,560 --> 01:58:58,080 how she received it from me 2617 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:00,570 what happened next what happened next 2618 01:59:05,419 --> 01:59:03,690 after this introduction well you know it 2619 01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:05,429 happened to not be alone in this desert 2620 01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:10,530 and there was Ruben with you know okay 2621 01:59:13,729 --> 01:59:12,239 okay I didn't know Ruben back then I 2622 01:59:15,620 --> 01:59:13,739 didn't even meet Ruben actually until 2623 01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:15,630 this last year so okay 2624 01:59:20,300 --> 01:59:17,520 there was there was these two guys that 2625 01:59:25,939 --> 01:59:20,310 came up into this space that I was in at 2626 01:59:29,240 --> 01:59:25,949 the time and the two guys were basically 2627 01:59:32,649 --> 01:59:29,250 like rednecks and you know literally 2628 01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:32,659 orange still chainsaw hat on one of them 2629 01:59:38,890 --> 01:59:36,570 and they're drunk in there tripping and 2630 01:59:41,149 --> 01:59:38,900 they're having an adventure out here and 2631 01:59:42,459 --> 01:59:41,159 they come up and they're like they look 2632 01:59:45,610 --> 01:59:42,469 at her and they're like 2633 01:59:47,650 --> 01:59:45,620 oh man what is this and like look at 2634 01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:47,660 each other like what the [\h__\h] and 2635 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:49,610 they're looking around in this space 2636 01:59:53,470 --> 01:59:51,650 which was an art piece and there's more 2637 01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:53,480 to the story but I'm not gonna get into 2638 01:59:59,709 --> 01:59:56,570 too much detail in in this conversation 2639 02:00:03,850 --> 01:59:59,719 and she looks over at them and what she 2640 02:00:09,570 --> 02:00:03,860 transmits back to me is not all of you 2641 02:00:11,740 --> 02:00:09,580 already and that transmission came with 2642 02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:11,750 if you ever saw the movie The Fifth 2643 02:00:17,650 --> 02:00:14,570 Element the moment in when it's like you 2644 02:00:19,390 --> 02:00:17,660 know she looks up war and it's like I 2645 02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:19,400 see these guys and they're like shooting 2646 02:00:23,650 --> 02:00:21,170 off their shotguns and they're shooting 2647 02:00:25,270 --> 02:00:23,660 things and and then one was getting his 2648 02:00:27,130 --> 02:00:25,280 head shaved and then now he's in the 2649 02:00:29,410 --> 02:00:27,140 military and I shooting a machine gun 2650 02:00:31,060 --> 02:00:29,420 and now he's listening to heavy metal 2651 02:00:32,530 --> 02:00:31,070 and I shootin a tank and now he's 2652 02:00:34,300 --> 02:00:32,540 blowing up this thing and he's blowing 2653 02:00:38,290 --> 02:00:34,310 up that thing and there's this whole 2654 02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:38,300 cascade of imagery of just like you know 2655 02:00:43,150 --> 02:00:40,610 someone just living their life it's not 2656 02:00:46,090 --> 02:00:43,160 that what they're doing is bad it's just 2657 02:00:50,110 --> 02:00:46,100 that the way that this kind of chain 2658 02:00:52,479 --> 02:00:50,120 goes is to a lack of care for life and a 2659 02:00:55,450 --> 02:00:52,489 lack of understanding of others and a 2660 02:00:57,010 --> 02:00:55,460 lack of awareness of really like who are 2661 02:00:58,990 --> 02:00:57,020 you destroying like why are you 2662 02:01:00,370 --> 02:00:59,000 destroying them do you really know are 2663 02:01:01,900 --> 02:01:00,380 you just doing it because your country 2664 02:01:03,670 --> 02:01:01,910 says it's a good idea do you actually 2665 02:01:05,709 --> 02:01:03,680 know why you're at war do you actually 2666 02:01:10,479 --> 02:01:05,719 know you know all of these different 2667 02:01:14,470 --> 02:01:10,489 questions come up and and I I could see 2668 02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:14,480 the kind of pain of humanity in which 2669 02:01:22,209 --> 02:01:18,170 like a lot of people are stuck in hard 2670 02:01:25,390 --> 02:01:22,219 places and they they're not necessarily 2671 02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:25,400 ready for this sort of leap you know in 2672 02:01:30,340 --> 02:01:27,650 terms of the way it seems in in their 2673 02:01:32,380 --> 02:01:30,350 consciousness and and when I saw that 2674 02:01:36,490 --> 02:01:32,390 and I felt that I also was looking at 2675 02:01:37,750 --> 02:01:36,500 these guys and you know I spent my you 2676 02:01:40,060 --> 02:01:37,760 know middle school in high school years 2677 02:01:42,370 --> 02:01:40,070 in Western North Carolina and I partied 2678 02:01:45,790 --> 02:01:42,380 with you know some guys that lived way 2679 02:01:48,790 --> 02:01:45,800 back up in Katy Fork and place called 2680 02:01:50,439 --> 02:01:48,800 little Canada and man we threw down hard 2681 02:01:52,720 --> 02:01:50,449 you know I'm saying like we did keg 2682 02:01:54,379 --> 02:01:52,730 parties we rocked him down you know we 2683 02:01:56,180 --> 02:01:54,389 had damn good time 2684 02:01:59,870 --> 02:01:56,190 and I know these guys like they're my 2685 02:02:02,120 --> 02:01:59,880 friends like they're my homies and you 2686 02:02:04,550 --> 02:02:02,130 know I saw some of them get beaten by 2687 02:02:07,100 --> 02:02:04,560 their dads I saw some of them deal with 2688 02:02:08,660 --> 02:02:07,110 like you know they stopped caring about 2689 02:02:09,709 --> 02:02:08,670 the grades they get in school cuz all 2690 02:02:11,570 --> 02:02:09,719 their parents care about is they're 2691 02:02:13,700 --> 02:02:11,580 doing FFA cuz their dad's like you're 2692 02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:13,710 gonna take over the farm that's what 2693 02:02:18,229 --> 02:02:15,810 you're doing next if you don't listen to 2694 02:02:21,649 --> 02:02:18,239 me you're going to military school and 2695 02:02:23,870 --> 02:02:21,659 and I saw the lack of choice and the 2696 02:02:26,359 --> 02:02:23,880 lack of options that some of these kids 2697 02:02:28,399 --> 02:02:26,369 had and I realized that that's true 2698 02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:28,409 across the board that a lot of kids grow 2699 02:02:33,260 --> 02:02:30,960 up and they they are trying to fit the 2700 02:02:35,870 --> 02:02:33,270 the model that their parents have laid 2701 02:02:38,180 --> 02:02:35,880 out or try to fit society in some way 2702 02:02:39,620 --> 02:02:38,190 and they don't have a way to get there 2703 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:39,630 and they get forced into these 2704 02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:41,730 situations where they're they're 2705 02:02:45,439 --> 02:02:43,290 struggling and they're literally 2706 02:02:46,850 --> 02:02:45,449 fighting against the society and 2707 02:02:50,510 --> 02:02:46,860 consciousness and all of these different 2708 02:02:53,240 --> 02:02:50,520 things and get caught up in fights and 2709 02:02:57,379 --> 02:02:53,250 in war and and it's all based on trauma 2710 02:03:01,040 --> 02:02:57,389 and I I sent her this sort of sense of 2711 02:03:03,109 --> 02:03:01,050 my awareness of of the fact that war is 2712 02:03:05,689 --> 02:03:03,119 based on trauma that a lot of these guys 2713 02:03:07,669 --> 02:03:05,699 is not their fault that these guys are 2714 02:03:09,379 --> 02:03:07,679 my friends and I I love them you know 2715 02:03:11,330 --> 02:03:09,389 like I didn't know these two guys but 2716 02:03:14,720 --> 02:03:11,340 they could have been friends of mine 2717 02:03:18,050 --> 02:03:14,730 from high school sure and and you know I 2718 02:03:19,939 --> 02:03:18,060 and I also I sent her that sort of love 2719 02:03:23,510 --> 02:03:19,949 and compassion that I felt for them and 2720 02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:23,520 I also said and enough of us are and I 2721 02:03:29,899 --> 02:03:28,050 sent her an image images of you know all 2722 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:29,909 of these different friends that I'd had 2723 02:03:35,930 --> 02:03:32,250 and that I'd made over the years who 2724 02:03:38,959 --> 02:03:35,940 just you know had a spark of light in 2725 02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:38,969 them and they they just wanted more than 2726 02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:41,130 anything to make a difference in the 2727 02:03:45,680 --> 02:03:42,810 world they just want more than anything 2728 02:03:48,609 --> 02:03:45,690 to make a change that's big enough or 2729 02:03:51,470 --> 02:03:48,619 that's drastic enough that that somehow 2730 02:03:53,930 --> 02:03:51,480 the wheel and the cycle would be shifted 2731 02:03:55,669 --> 02:03:53,940 and you know their children wouldn't 2732 02:03:58,370 --> 02:03:55,679 have to deal with the same kind of pain 2733 02:04:01,669 --> 02:03:58,380 and challenges that that the environment 2734 02:04:05,089 --> 02:04:01,679 would make it through this adolescence 2735 02:04:06,740 --> 02:04:05,099 of humanity and and we'd see through to 2736 02:04:10,670 --> 02:04:06,750 the other side 2737 02:04:12,380 --> 02:04:10,680 of this sort of major growth spurt that 2738 02:04:14,870 --> 02:04:12,390 we're going through it as human beings 2739 02:04:17,570 --> 02:04:14,880 and survive and have a planet that's 2740 02:04:18,950 --> 02:04:17,580 beautiful to pass to our kids and you 2741 02:04:21,020 --> 02:04:18,960 know there's all of these beautiful 2742 02:04:22,250 --> 02:04:21,030 people doing great work in the world 2743 02:04:24,740 --> 02:04:22,260 right now and a lot of them are 2744 02:04:27,410 --> 02:04:24,750 listeners on your show that are you know 2745 02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:27,420 dedicated to making a change in the 2746 02:04:33,350 --> 02:04:29,130 world for the better and for our 2747 02:04:37,250 --> 02:04:33,360 generations to come and and that's you 2748 02:04:40,330 --> 02:04:37,260 know that's something that that I felt 2749 02:04:43,270 --> 02:04:40,340 deeply and she received very deeply and 2750 02:04:48,650 --> 02:04:43,280 the look on her face shifted her eyes 2751 02:04:51,950 --> 02:04:48,660 sparkled and suddenly I felt this wave 2752 02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:51,960 of love hit me and she bowed to me and 2753 02:04:56,360 --> 02:04:53,970 she sent me this energy and she said 2754 02:05:00,800 --> 02:04:56,370 into my heart and into my being with 2755 02:05:05,180 --> 02:05:00,810 light and sound and visuals thank you 2756 02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:05,190 for honoring your people and it was just 2757 02:05:10,070 --> 02:05:08,130 this overwhelming sense of love and I 2758 02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:10,080 just felt like oh my god I just like 2759 02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:13,050 passed a test right Rossum test 2760 02:05:18,820 --> 02:05:15,840 she was just testing me and it was like 2761 02:05:22,850 --> 02:05:18,830 oh and I felt this love so strong it was 2762 02:05:26,090 --> 02:05:22,860 overwhelmingly powerful and I just I 2763 02:05:28,940 --> 02:05:26,100 just bowed to her and you know put my 2764 02:05:31,610 --> 02:05:28,950 head and my hands together and bowed to 2765 02:05:34,270 --> 02:05:31,620 her and just so much gratitude for this 2766 02:05:37,730 --> 02:05:34,280 moment and this experience with her and 2767 02:05:40,730 --> 02:05:37,740 and then I came up from the bow and she 2768 02:05:42,620 --> 02:05:40,740 was gone and the retina guys were still 2769 02:05:44,990 --> 02:05:42,630 there other people in the area were 2770 02:05:49,700 --> 02:05:45,000 still around she was nowhere to be seen 2771 02:05:53,180 --> 02:05:49,710 have you seen her scent no not not in 2772 02:05:56,450 --> 02:05:53,190 the physical but I have connected with 2773 02:05:59,240 --> 02:05:56,460 her and she spends time in the Sirian 2774 02:06:03,080 --> 02:05:59,250 star system but that's that's certainly 2775 02:06:06,260 --> 02:06:03,090 part of another story yeah what just got 2776 02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:06,270 asked the dumb question right the the to 2777 02:06:14,630 --> 02:06:11,370 the to redneck guys the still chainsaw 2778 02:06:16,850 --> 02:06:14,640 hat what did they say I mean what was 2779 02:06:19,430 --> 02:06:16,860 the reaction after she wasn't there oh 2780 02:06:22,010 --> 02:06:19,440 yeah well there's a moment where 2781 02:06:23,689 --> 02:06:22,020 I was actually massively thankful for 2782 02:06:26,510 --> 02:06:23,699 this moment but you know one of them 2783 02:06:28,850 --> 02:06:26,520 after looking at this this art piece 2784 02:06:33,950 --> 02:06:28,860 that is part of this area that I was in 2785 02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:33,960 looks over and she's gone and he's like 2786 02:06:40,939 --> 02:06:37,050 glances around like where the did she go 2787 02:06:43,610 --> 02:06:40,949 mm-hmm and that that moment of him 2788 02:06:44,270 --> 02:06:43,620 looking for her man it was such a relief 2789 02:06:47,209 --> 02:06:44,280 for me 2790 02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:47,219 because you know my logical brain and my 2791 02:06:53,959 --> 02:06:50,690 eye was literally just in like a VR 2792 02:06:56,540 --> 02:06:53,969 telepathic field with a being that was 2793 02:06:58,880 --> 02:06:56,550 so powerful it was you know stronger 2794 02:07:02,150 --> 02:06:58,890 than any psychedelic I've ever taken and 2795 02:07:06,260 --> 02:07:02,160 it was it was just so intense and so 2796 02:07:09,950 --> 02:07:06,270 real and so potent what I felt from her 2797 02:07:11,870 --> 02:07:09,960 and then she's gone you know and then 2798 02:07:14,479 --> 02:07:11,880 here's this guy who's just like as 2799 02:07:17,750 --> 02:07:14,489 earthly as can be you know as human as 2800 02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:17,760 can be and he saw her and he sees that 2801 02:07:25,189 --> 02:07:22,530 she's gone and I'm like okay that was 2802 02:07:26,750 --> 02:07:25,199 real you know like is one of those 2803 02:07:29,150 --> 02:07:26,760 moments where it's like you would 2804 02:07:31,790 --> 02:07:29,160 anybody would question themselves after 2805 02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:31,800 having an experience that powerful well 2806 02:07:35,959 --> 02:07:33,090 you've always looked at the world 2807 02:07:38,750 --> 02:07:35,969 differently but certainly after an 2808 02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:38,760 experience like that you forget the 2809 02:07:44,570 --> 02:07:41,250 redneck guy yeah you have to look around 2810 02:07:47,479 --> 02:07:44,580 and go okay well I I was thinking things 2811 02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:47,489 weren't the way they seemed but now I 2812 02:07:53,959 --> 02:07:51,810 know this or not how did it change for 2813 02:07:56,390 --> 02:07:53,969 you from that moment forward well from 2814 02:08:00,410 --> 02:07:56,400 that moment on I actually went out to go 2815 02:08:02,180 --> 02:08:00,420 and make contact and you know I won't 2816 02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:02,190 tell the rest of the whole story because 2817 02:08:08,780 --> 02:08:05,360 it's it's just a lot to tell but I did 2818 02:08:12,380 --> 02:08:08,790 literally from there I went out and had 2819 02:08:15,530 --> 02:08:12,390 an experience of bilocation where I 2820 02:08:18,860 --> 02:08:15,540 actually traveled to this galactic 2821 02:08:22,390 --> 02:08:18,870 council chamber in which I saw and 2822 02:08:24,770 --> 02:08:22,400 witnessed at least 73 different 2823 02:08:27,260 --> 02:08:24,780 ambassador groups from different species 2824 02:08:30,260 --> 02:08:27,270 from all over the galaxy 2825 02:08:32,010 --> 02:08:30,270 why 73 I don't know it's the number that 2826 02:08:34,020 --> 02:08:32,020 my brain pulled out and 2827 02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:34,030 it's just was there in the moment that I 2828 02:08:39,510 --> 02:08:37,090 had the experience and I ended up in a 2829 02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:39,520 in a deep and powerful conversation with 2830 02:08:46,710 --> 02:08:42,730 them for many hours after this in which 2831 02:08:48,450 --> 02:08:46,720 I came to know and understand who I was 2832 02:08:49,830 --> 02:08:48,460 a little bit better and also like what 2833 02:08:51,660 --> 02:08:49,840 it what the heck we're doing here and 2834 02:08:53,220 --> 02:08:51,670 what's going on and why why are these 2835 02:08:55,140 --> 02:08:53,230 species not landing on the White House 2836 02:08:58,080 --> 02:08:55,150 lawn you know as people like to say I 2837 02:08:59,760 --> 02:08:58,090 saw on your Twitter feed and and when it 2838 02:09:01,830 --> 02:08:59,770 comes down to it you know I'll give you 2839 02:09:04,140 --> 02:09:01,840 I'll give you the summary of some of my 2840 02:09:07,350 --> 02:09:04,150 realizations from that conversation and 2841 02:09:09,840 --> 02:09:07,360 that's that you know we are as I 2842 02:09:12,540 --> 02:09:09,850 mentioned before in an adolescent phases 2843 02:09:15,390 --> 02:09:12,550 of species we're literally coming to a 2844 02:09:18,270 --> 02:09:15,400 point where for the first time since 2845 02:09:20,970 --> 02:09:18,280 before the end of the last ice age were 2846 02:09:23,340 --> 02:09:20,980 connected across the entire planet we 2847 02:09:25,980 --> 02:09:23,350 have the ability to communicate with 2848 02:09:28,290 --> 02:09:25,990 each other instantaneously all over the 2849 02:09:31,530 --> 02:09:28,300 world now we have technology that backs 2850 02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:31,540 up our capacity to develop telepathy but 2851 02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:34,330 telepathy is coming we are already 2852 02:09:40,050 --> 02:09:37,090 starting to speak more languages and 2853 02:09:41,940 --> 02:09:40,060 merge and realize that all languages are 2854 02:09:44,130 --> 02:09:41,950 in some way connected to a higher 2855 02:09:46,620 --> 02:09:44,140 language that's the language of thinking 2856 02:09:48,720 --> 02:09:46,630 and mind and information itself and we 2857 02:09:51,750 --> 02:09:48,730 can translate things instantly using our 2858 02:09:54,570 --> 02:09:51,760 digital technologies and as we come into 2859 02:09:58,620 --> 02:09:54,580 this maturation cycle we are preparing 2860 02:10:00,570 --> 02:09:58,630 for this sort of great orgasm of Gaia of 2861 02:10:03,840 --> 02:10:00,580 this sort of height of evolution of Gaia 2862 02:10:07,500 --> 02:10:03,850 where the human species is is released 2863 02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:07,510 out into the galaxy and gets to go and 2864 02:10:11,340 --> 02:10:09,490 explore and play and share all of our 2865 02:10:13,800 --> 02:10:11,350 realizations and our gifts with these 2866 02:10:16,410 --> 02:10:13,810 other worlds and receive the gifts from 2867 02:10:19,740 --> 02:10:16,420 these other species as well to bring our 2868 02:10:22,650 --> 02:10:19,750 planet back into balance and and to make 2869 02:10:25,590 --> 02:10:22,660 it through this this grand game of being 2870 02:10:27,870 --> 02:10:25,600 and evolution in life but in order to do 2871 02:10:29,790 --> 02:10:27,880 that there are certain very fundamental 2872 02:10:32,280 --> 02:10:29,800 realizations that we need to go through 2873 02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:32,290 as a species and in order to go through 2874 02:10:38,070 --> 02:10:35,050 those realizations we have to face the 2875 02:10:40,710 --> 02:10:38,080 potential of our own extinction we have 2876 02:10:44,220 --> 02:10:40,720 to face the potential of our own death 2877 02:10:45,220 --> 02:10:44,230 and that looking at our shadow seeing 2878 02:10:48,190 --> 02:10:45,230 our darkness see 2879 02:10:51,370 --> 02:10:48,200 we've abused nature seeing how we've we 2880 02:10:54,610 --> 02:10:51,380 we traumatize our kids and seeing how 2881 02:10:56,320 --> 02:10:54,620 you know the cycles of time and war and 2882 02:10:58,210 --> 02:10:56,330 and all the things that we've been 2883 02:11:00,550 --> 02:10:58,220 through as a species and all the things 2884 02:11:02,979 --> 02:11:00,560 we like to hide the stuff we don't like 2885 02:11:05,320 --> 02:11:02,989 to talk about the the ways we you know 2886 02:11:07,870 --> 02:11:05,330 might go to church and be like stoked to 2887 02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:07,880 like sing a song about Jesus but then we 2888 02:11:11,650 --> 02:11:09,890 don't want to talk about all of the 2889 02:11:13,870 --> 02:11:11,660 people that got slaughtered across 2890 02:11:16,930 --> 02:11:13,880 Europe because they were herbologists 2891 02:11:19,150 --> 02:11:16,940 right you know or you know what if 2892 02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:19,160 you're Muslim like dealing with the 2893 02:11:24,370 --> 02:11:22,610 shadow like facing our shadow facing our 2894 02:11:27,910 --> 02:11:24,380 own darkness facing the things that 2895 02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:27,920 we've done wrong is critical to us 2896 02:11:33,460 --> 02:11:30,410 coming into greater responsibility for 2897 02:11:36,700 --> 02:11:33,470 who we actually are and making the kinds 2898 02:11:38,380 --> 02:11:36,710 of new choices in the moment that are 2899 02:11:40,750 --> 02:11:38,390 gonna pave the way to a future that 2900 02:11:44,170 --> 02:11:40,760 actually is equitable and good for all 2901 02:11:46,810 --> 02:11:44,180 life and it's a it's a massive 2902 02:11:49,330 --> 02:11:46,820 transformation process and a realization 2903 02:11:52,420 --> 02:11:49,340 process and it looks nasty because just 2904 02:11:54,670 --> 02:11:52,430 like a butterfly you know you your world 2905 02:11:57,280 --> 02:11:54,680 worms and we're going into the chrysalis 2906 02:11:59,470 --> 02:11:57,290 and we're at battle with ourselves but 2907 02:12:01,870 --> 02:11:59,480 you know there's this amazing thing and 2908 02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:01,880 it's called the imaginal cells and the 2909 02:12:06,610 --> 02:12:03,890 imaginal cells are like those of us that 2910 02:12:09,850 --> 02:12:06,620 are waking up and popping open and we're 2911 02:12:12,130 --> 02:12:09,860 realizing you know all the truth to 2912 02:12:13,930 --> 02:12:12,140 these things and we're getting clearer 2913 02:12:16,210 --> 02:12:13,940 and we're questioning we're asking the 2914 02:12:18,490 --> 02:12:16,220 really hard questions and we're not just 2915 02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:18,500 stopping there we're keeping going until 2916 02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:20,210 the truth is seen and that's creating 2917 02:12:25,780 --> 02:12:22,610 pressure where the old structure is 2918 02:12:28,410 --> 02:12:25,790 breaking down and falling apart and then 2919 02:12:31,090 --> 02:12:28,420 through those imaginal cells literally 2920 02:12:33,220 --> 02:12:31,100 working together connecting together 2921 02:12:35,830 --> 02:12:33,230 we're forming a new structure that 2922 02:12:38,860 --> 02:12:35,840 transcends and includes the old one so 2923 02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:38,870 no one gets left behind but we literally 2924 02:12:44,560 --> 02:12:42,110 begin to generate and gestate this new 2925 02:12:47,890 --> 02:12:44,570 form of being this new species that 2926 02:12:50,860 --> 02:12:47,900 we're becoming in order to become part 2927 02:12:53,470 --> 02:12:50,870 of this galactic community and you know 2928 02:12:55,660 --> 02:12:53,480 you can't if if they just they've come 2929 02:12:57,670 --> 02:12:55,670 down to this planet so many times over 2930 02:12:59,050 --> 02:12:57,680 history they've brought technologies 2931 02:13:00,520 --> 02:12:59,060 we've tried it that way and 2932 02:13:02,890 --> 02:13:00,530 what happens as humans just think 2933 02:13:06,220 --> 02:13:02,900 they're gods and we worship them as gods 2934 02:13:08,530 --> 02:13:06,230 and we're as angels or whatever and then 2935 02:13:10,480 --> 02:13:08,540 we end up screwing up again and we you 2936 02:13:12,430 --> 02:13:10,490 know we revolt against them because we 2937 02:13:14,770 --> 02:13:12,440 don't want to have angels or gods over 2938 02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:14,780 us because we're humans you know we want 2939 02:13:20,350 --> 02:13:18,170 to be powerful ourselves and and so the 2940 02:13:23,020 --> 02:13:20,360 right answer you know to this whole 2941 02:13:25,420 --> 02:13:23,030 planetary game is letting us go through 2942 02:13:28,570 --> 02:13:25,430 our transformation you know and and 2943 02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:28,580 facing our shadow and choosing to change 2944 02:13:33,490 --> 02:13:31,520 and you know they can help us from 2945 02:13:35,980 --> 02:13:33,500 destroying ourselves and they'll stop us 2946 02:13:38,890 --> 02:13:35,990 from bombing ourselves with nukes but 2947 02:13:42,160 --> 02:13:38,900 the the phase of transformation is 2948 02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:42,170 critical and through this state of vism 2949 02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:45,410 this this blooming of realization that 2950 02:13:50,170 --> 02:13:47,450 we're going through we build our own 2951 02:13:53,110 --> 02:13:50,180 starship technology we build our own 2952 02:13:57,340 --> 02:13:53,120 energy systems that run off of the 2953 02:13:59,950 --> 02:13:57,350 quantum vacuum fields and as we build 2954 02:14:02,830 --> 02:13:59,960 all of these ourselves we know that 2955 02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:02,840 we've done it ourselves and so we come 2956 02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:04,850 to the rest of the galactic community as 2957 02:14:10,510 --> 02:14:07,850 equals and this is really important 2958 02:14:13,060 --> 02:14:10,520 because all star family have to meet 2959 02:14:15,490 --> 02:14:13,070 each other in council as equals no one's 2960 02:14:17,980 --> 02:14:15,500 above any other no shortcuts no 2961 02:14:19,570 --> 02:14:17,990 shortcuts right right now so that's 2962 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:19,580 literally what we're in the middle of 2963 02:14:26,110 --> 02:14:22,970 right now is that process Apollo an 2964 02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:26,120 amazing conversation tonight and I've 2965 02:14:32,860 --> 02:14:29,570 literally got 15 seconds left out of all 2966 02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:32,870 of your websites where which one should 2967 02:14:38,350 --> 02:14:36,290 everybody start at first well if you go 2968 02:14:40,540 --> 02:14:38,360 to Adam Apollo calm it's got links to 2969 02:14:43,660 --> 02:14:40,550 everything else so just just come find 2970 02:14:46,240 --> 02:14:43,670 me there and hope to see you guys in 2971 02:14:48,580 --> 02:14:46,250 some of the amazing academies and and 2972 02:14:49,150 --> 02:14:48,590 some of the adventures we're going to 2973 02:14:51,640 --> 02:14:49,160 Mexico 2974 02:14:54,880 --> 02:14:51,650 for an epic expedition in the resonance 2975 02:14:57,970 --> 02:14:54,890 Academy please check that out look up 2976 02:15:01,690 --> 02:14:57,980 Mexico expedition resonance as in 2977 02:15:02,980 --> 02:15:01,700 vibrational resonance Academy and I'm 2978 02:15:05,310 --> 02:15:02,990 going there with a group of other 2979 02:15:08,290 --> 02:15:05,320 brilliant thinkers and amazing people 2980 02:15:11,950 --> 02:15:08,300 we're going to a bunch of amazing sites 2981 02:15:12,750 --> 02:15:11,960 tota con and some sites that nobody's 2982 02:15:15,509 --> 02:15:12,760 had 2983 02:15:18,770 --> 02:15:15,519 to get into we've been working hard to 2984 02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:18,780 get into some really secret spots and 2985 02:15:23,399 --> 02:15:21,550 debunk the old archaeology and reveal 2986 02:15:24,330 --> 02:15:23,409 the fact that we're more connected than 2987 02:15:26,850 --> 02:15:24,340 people think 2988 02:15:29,490 --> 02:15:26,860 thank you so much Adam and enjoy the 2989 02:15:31,709 --> 02:15:29,500 rest of your evening and I truly look 2990 02:15:33,799 --> 02:15:31,719 forward to the next time that we have 2991 02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:33,809 you on the show and we'll go deeper into 2992 02:15:38,819 --> 02:15:36,880 another subject thank you so much man 2993 02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:38,829 thanks so much Jimmy thank you guys 2994 02:15:44,700 --> 02:15:42,010 great conversation Adam Apollo start at 2995 02:15:46,890 --> 02:15:44,710 Adam Apollo comm all of his links are 2996 02:15:48,870 --> 02:15:46,900 over at the Jimmy Church radio.com 2997 02:15:52,399 --> 02:15:48,880 what a great conversation tonight 2998 02:15:54,660 --> 02:15:52,409 tomorrow night 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